You wander out of the blue paint, and you oughta be fair game if you're a goalie.

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I don't agree with that. I think goalies are vulnerable with all of that equipment on to be fair game. Plus the type of equipment they have may protect them from pucks, but I don't think it protects them against hard hits and check that they would receive if they were to wander out of their crease.

But in this situation, there really wasn't much Janssen could do to avoid Price. It looked like at the last second he tried which resulted in him jumping and kind of landing on Price.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that goalie's are certainly are running the risk of getting hit when they come out of the crease, but I don't think a goalie should ever be considered "fair game".

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why? that stuff makes more more vulnerable to injuries when it comes to hits. that stuff is to stop pucks. not bodies. interesting take from fans of a team who vilify scott gomez for hardly touching miller, but accidently injured him.

this is the same reason why you cant blast punters in the NFL. you are trying to stop a puck, and you often come out of the crease to cut down angles.

jeez, he crushed him. seemed harmless, not intentional. both going for the puck. but if i was price, i would be pissed too.

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Then let me amend my comment to include "or come out of the trapezoid".

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how about anywhere? that stuff is to stop pucks, but actually makes more vulnerable to injuries from body to body contact.

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I wouldn't say he "destroyed" Price

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goalie shouldnt be "fair game" but if you come out that far out of your net you should expect some contact.

how are goalie vulnerable in their equipment?

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one, theres only protection on your front side. back is just straps. two, you dont have range of motion to protect yourself. therefore, you cant protect yourself. at all. people think you cant feel anything in that? BULL SHIT!

thats why it is absolutely wrong for a player to fight a goalie unless the goalie goes after a forward. thats why what andrew peters did to emery is just pure garbage.

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Because having all that equipment hinders them to properly embrace for hard hits or checks along the boards...and let's be serious here, if goalies were considered "fair game", you know scumbag players would take complete advantage of that and try to slam a goalie into the boards whenever given the opportunity. It shouldn't be open season for goalies when they come out of their crease because they don't have the proper equipment to protect them for hard hits, and also because goalies are essentially the most important piece to a team and a goalie being injured from an extended period of time is completely different than if a skater gets injured.

I'm not saying if a goalie is going to come wayyy out of his crease that he should be untouchable, they have to expect contact, but they should just never be considered "fair game". You just shouldn't hit a goalie.

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Yeah, hitting the goalie will be cause for some serious retribution, regardless of where he is on the ice. That being said, doesn't look to me like Janssen really went after him. In fact, I think he jumped to try and avoid him.

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he came out to play the puck with another player streaking down the ice...it's called picking and choosing your battles. If you come out into the play, and get smoked by a player at full speed attacking the puck, then you're shit outa luck. Goalies shouldn't be hit, but at the same time, he's above the face off circle, he's in the play at that point...sorry about ya kid.

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also, goalie masks are not equipped to absorb hits on the boards, or even on the ice. pucks, thats it. all masks do is take the puck strike, and spread the impact throughout the mask. thats why masks have the 3 ridges that run from the forehead to back of the head.

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I know all about the gear and such, but what I'm saying is, he came out too far, and tried to disrupt the play. Janssen is going hard after the puck...Price made a bad play, and got hit...same deal if the goalie comes out and challenges like Mike Richter used to. I can't tell ya how many times he got bowled over...but he'd know the impact was coming, and typically took it like a man.

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impact is part of hockey. but fair game? hell no.

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When I said fair game, I didn't mean it was open season goalies - I just meant that he's gonna get hit and tough shit he's gonna have to deal with it if contact is made. I'd never condone headhunting goalies.

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so, going back to my first post, you agree gomez's bump to miller last season was legal, correct?

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No, he was in the trapezoid - you didn't read my comment, did you?

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out of the net is out of the net. there is no grey area. contact is fine, as long as a effort is made to avoid the goalie.

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Gomez's bump to Miller may have been "legal", but call it sour grapes if you want (I'd be kidding myself if I didn't say I was biased), I think Gomez knew what he was doing when bumped Miller.

And Phil, I agree with you that if you're going to go that far out of your crease like Price did, you have to expect some sort of contact...Janssen didn't do anything wrong, if anything he tried to avoid Price. I mean, if you're going to come out of your crease to try and play the puck, you have to expect the opposing team to try and tie you up and steal it from you. There's plenty of contact in a goalie's crease nowadays anyways...

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