No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.

Oh nice, so Hamilton is out of the question because we all know Toronto would say hell no.

Actually, territorial veto rights are unconstitutional, so what's happening here is Balsillie and Moyes are setting the stage for a massive anti-trust/racketeering lawsuit against the NHL following the ruling should the NHL be awarded the Coyotes.

Actually, territorial veto rights are unconstitutional, so what's happening here is Balsillie and Moyes are setting the stage for a massive anti-trust/racketeering lawsuit against the NHL following the ruling should the NHL be awarded the Coyotes.

thats all fine and good. an owner can say whatever they want.

but has anyone bothered to actually get a hold of the NHL guidelines or whatever and see if there is an actual territory veto?

Great minds think alike...or is it drunk minds? Or both?

thats all fine and good. an owner can say whatever they want.

but has anyone bothered to actually get a hold of the NHL guidelines or whatever and see if there is an actual territory veto?

http://multimedia.thestar.com/acrobat/0 ... 855bec.pdf

Article IV : Territorial rights

Section 4.1 , Definitions
(c) : Home Territory. With respect to any member, means : Each Member Club shall have exclusive territorial rights in the city in which it is located and within 50 miles of that city's corporate limits.

Section 4.3, last sentence : No franchise shall be granted for a home territory within the home territory of a member, without the written consent of such member.


Go ahead Gary, keep saying there's no veto. Fucking moron.

Invited to meet with Seymour Knox(senior 2nd) in his office at the old Buffalo Auditorium three weeks after Ron Joyce's bid was rejected. Present with me was the Mayor.He was quite irate and angry with us regarding trying to get a team in Hamilton. He said he had a lot of money invested in the Sabers and was not about to let anyone in his 50 mile protected territory. I advised him that Hamilton was over the 50 mile radius to Buffalo and that there was no veto provisions for him in the NHL constitution. He said I was wrong and that his measurement was related to "how the crow flies) and not by land. He said that having a team in Hamilton would hurt both Buffalo & Toronto and that both had the veto power to exclude us at any time. He suggested that a team would never come and swore "over his dead body". He told us to be happy with an AHL team and stop whining as we were not a primary market but a secondary one. He also stated that we should have never built Copps Coliseum....it was a stupid government decision.

Mr. Melnyk admitted the continued effectiveness of the illegal NHL constitutional territorial veto,” Balsillie’s lawyers said in court papers. “Moreover, his remarks confirm that the real reason for the rejection of Mr. Balsillie’s ownership application is this veto.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=at2j3bWnCPJg



Just because the veto exists doesn't prove that the veto is the reason why the NHL owners didn't approve Balsillie this time around.

No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.