Even more of a reason that Kovy to LAK if he drops his asking price to $8M per makes sense
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
So, apparently Simon Gagne has waived his NTC for a trade to LAK. The Kings may be using this trade as a replacement for Kovy, but Jay smartly posited that it might be a move used to bait Kovy into lowering his asking price to come to a stocked team. Think about it, Jay may have hit this nail on the head. Right now, the Kings look like this: Smyth/Kopitar/Brown XXXXX/Handzus/Williams XXXXX/Stoll/Simmonds XXXXX/XXXXX/Parse Doughty/Johnson Green/Scuderi Drewiske/Harrold Quick Ersberg I 100% expect Harrold or Drewiske to get sent out and Teubert to get promoted. I also expect Ersberg is getting sent to Manchester so the Quick/Bernier tandem can take the Pacific by storm. Maybe they bring Mair back for a cheapo 4th line center and pick up a scrub to play 4th line LW. But if they pull off a Gagne trade and then use it to sign Kovy, holy shit: Kovalchuk/Kopitar/Brown Gagne/Handzus/Williams Smyth/Stoll/Simmonds LW???/C????/Parse Doughty/Johnson Greene/Scuderi Teubert/Drewiske-Harrold Quick Bernier If Kovy could get brought down to $8M and one of Drewiske-Harrold gets sent away to make room for Teubert, the Kings would be able to afford trading for Gagne (esp if it's Drewiske or Harrold who goes to PHI for him) and signing a pair of scrubs for the 4th line. Holy fuck. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Kovy is too stubborn to drop his salary IMO. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Agreed, but IF he did...fuck. |
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| Author: | sabresEH [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Kovy didn't turn down ATL's offer because of money. He turned it down because of the uncertainty of where the franchise will be in 5 years. If LA can trade for Gagne I could see Kovy taking 8mill to win a cup. If not than he truly is a douchebag. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
mechaphil wrote: Agreed, but IF he did...fuck. It would be DASTARDLY bad. DASTARDLY... Fuckin' love that word. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
If the Kings land both Kovy and Gagne, that team will win a cup in 2 years. Quick is only getting better. Their only problem is when Doughty asks for his raise and Johnson also, and resigning Handzus, and Frolov this year. Next year Johnson and Doughty are both RFA's. I think they could do it and keep the team together if they need to. We'll see though. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Frolov is gone to Russia if LAK trades for Gagne and signs Kovy. |
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| Author: | sabresEH [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
I'm pretty sure LA has been waiting for Handzus' contract to expire as he is overpaid for what he brings. They'll let him walk and use that money towards Doughty. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Even more of a reason that Kovy to LAK if he drops his asking price to $8M per makes sense
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
I'm not a fan of Kovi. I'm really not. But I am very curious to see how he'd perform on the west coast with a big pay day. And yet, I don't know what people really expect out of this guy. He didn't take Atlanta anywhere, and then when he got moved to a solid team and had a chance to show the league that he was the type of player you could build around, they sank like a rock. I'm just not that impressed. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Well, he's got the second most goals since the lockout (230 to Ovi's 269) and has scored at least 40g and 76pts (avgs of 46g and 87pts) on flat-out terrible Thrashers teams. In Atlanta, the team was built around him scoring all day, so it worked to an extent...for him. In New Jersey, he didn't fit in with their system at all. I knew, you knew it, he knew it, Uncle Lou knew it, so I don't know why it happened. He'd fit in with LA, for sure. I think he's an amazing player, but I don't think he'll ever be a team guy and I don't think he's worth league max. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
sabresEH wrote: I'm pretty sure LA has been waiting for Handzus' contract to expire as he is overpaid for what he brings. They'll let him walk and use that money towards Doughty. Good enough reason for them to sign him for sure. LA is going to be great for the next few years for sure. I see them getting to the finals a few times in the next ten years for sure. |
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| Author: | Timbo Slice [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Day-um. That would be unfair. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
mechaphil wrote: In New Jersey, he didn't fit in with their system at all. I knew, you knew it, he knew it, Uncle Lou knew it, so I don't know why it happened. you dont score that much on a system alone. hes still a 30-40 goal guy on even the most defensive teams. he gave them a scoring threat, even if it wasnt the same clip as in hotlanta. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
ironyisadeadscene wrote: mechaphil wrote: In New Jersey, he didn't fit in with their system at all. I knew, you knew it, he knew it, Uncle Lou knew it, so I don't know why it happened. you dont score that much on a system alone. hes still a 30-40 goal guy on even the most defensive teams. he gave them a scoring threat, even if it wasnt the same clip as in hotlanta. That's true, but I was speaking more to the disparity between his playing style and NJD's. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
good point. i think new jersey wanted some scoring punch, and it didnt work out. give him a full season in new jersey, and his talent shows and he hits 35 goals no sweat. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Which would be a career low besides his rookie season 
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
ill take that career low 
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Ya know, it's plain to the human eye Kovalchuk plays like the one-man team his time in Atlanta molded him into, but he still puts up great numbers. If he could play on a decent team built for offense that he gelled with, he'd rival Ovechkin for the scoring title every season. |
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| Author: | patkane88 [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Thoughts On LAK/trading for Gagne?/maybe signing Kovy |
Looks like the deal is off for LA http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326611 Now I would say the Islanders are now the front runners for him |
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