:: View topic - Realignment, what's your opinion?

Move Nashville to SE, Minnesota to Central, Winnipeg to the NW.

Simple and involves the least possible teams.

The concern about Colorado is that attendance might go down a bit, because they will have fewer home games against American teams, and they don't have really deep, well established rivalries with any of the Canadian teams in their division (not yet anyway).

BagBoy wrote:

I don't necessarily agree with that. The Avs have been in the same division with EDM,CGY,VAN for like 15 years...

I'm in with the 3-move crowd (NSH to SE, MIN to Central, and WPG to NW)

I really don't get why Ilitch is politicking so much. He doesn't have a legit argument. Before 1993-94, when they were put into their current division under the "Western" Conference, they were in the old Norris division with basically the same teams. Two have changed but the travel distances are the same (Minnesota=Nashville, Toronto=Columbus). Either way, prior to 93-94 they were still going to the west coast on occassion during the playoffs, there's just more west coast teams now.

Nashville should go to the SE and maybe start to make that a competetive division for once, and Detroit can go cry me a river.

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:59 pm ]
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I know that there will be about nine different combinations to realign the divisions next season, and about 81 different opinions covering each option. I form my opinions (in any league) based strictly on geography, because that is the fairest way for everyone to get the best travel scenarios. I also like the idea of forming regional rivalries, which has turned out well so far in the NFL (with the exception of keeping Dallas in the NFC East). Anyway, the best geographical option is to move Winnipeg to the Northwest, Minnesota to the Central, and Nashville to the Southeast... Washington Carolina Nashville Tampa Bay Florida Detroit Chicago Minnesota Columbus St. Louis Vancouver Calgary Edmonton Winnipeg Colorado I know Detroit really wants back in the East, but they fit too well where they are, and have no business in a "Southeast" division. Ilitch complains about playoff travel, but that's the same for every Western team. At least Detroit has a bunch of division teams within a short flight. Same can be said for Columbus and Dallas, who also would like to switch over, but Nashville is easily the closest to the Southeast. My opinion anyway, any others?

Author:	Montalo [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:31 am ]
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NE Buffalo Toronto Ottawa Montréal Washington ATL Boston New York New York New Jersey Philadelphia Southeast Tampa Bay Nashville Florida Carolina Dallas Central Pittsburgh Minnesota Chicago Columbus Detroit Northwest Vancouver Edmonton Calgary Winnipeg San Jose Pacific St. Louis(yeah, you guys are fucked) Los Angeles Anaheim Colorado Phoenix i did entire league. some teams are fucked, but thats how it works here

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:10 am ]
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Move Nashville to SE, Minnesota to Central, Winnipeg to the NW. Simple and involves the least possible teams.

Author:	BagBoy [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:29 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: Move Nashville to SE, Minnesota to Central, Winnipeg to the NW. Simple and involves the least possible teams. This is the idea I like best, also. However, there may be problems with Colorado being the only US team in the NW. Actually, they may go with an even simpler idea, namely just swap Nashville and Winnipeg. Then only 2 teams are impacted (both positively).

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:58 pm ]
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Bagboy, I think that will happen also. I read about the Colorado issue, but I wonder. What's the big deal about having one US team and four Canadian teams in a division? Why is that so different from the 2/3 in the NE?

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Author:	BagBoy [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:34 pm ]
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The concern about Colorado is that attendance might go down a bit, because they will have fewer home games against American teams, and they don't have really deep, well established rivalries with any of the Canadian teams in their division (not yet anyway). Personally, I think there is some truth to that, but not much. Also, it would be great for these 4 Canadian teams to get back in the same division, like they were pre-Coyotes. As for the NE, all those rivalries are so well established and the cities are so relatively close to each other. I don't think the US/Canada distribution means a thing in the NE. Sabres fans, for example, LOVE going to Habs, Leafs and Sens games in Buffalo. This was on TSN today: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377916

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:34 pm ]
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PIT PHI NJD NYR NYI BUF BOS OTT TOR MON WAS CAR FLA TBL NAS --- DET CBJ STL CHI MIN VAN WIN EDM CAL COL DAL ANA LAK PHO SJS Simple, effective, rights this geographically and travel is decent.

Author:	Van_Da_Man [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:27 pm ]
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Add 2 teams or contract 2, have all the teams sign 'contracts' stating they will stay the hell where they are for x years, and then make the divisions based off geography.

Author:	Seanothan27 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:21 pm ]
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BagBoy wrote: The concern about Colorado is that attendance might go down a bit, because they will have fewer home games against American teams, and they don't have really deep, well established rivalries with any of the Canadian teams in their division (not yet anyway). I don't necessarily agree with that. The Avs have been in the same division with EDM,CGY,VAN for like 15 years... I'm in with the 3-move crowd (NSH to SE, MIN to Central, and WPG to NW)

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:04 am ]
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Seanothan27 wrote: BagBoy wrote: The concern about Colorado is that attendance might go down a bit, because they will have fewer home games against American teams, and they don't have really deep, well established rivalries with any of the Canadian teams in their division (not yet anyway). I don't necessarily agree with that. The Avs have been in the same division with EDM,CGY,VAN for like 15 years... I'm in with the 3-move crowd (NSH to SE, MIN to Central, and WPG to NW) To me this makes the most sense geographically. My one friend is a Wings fan and he said the NHL wouldn't put the Wings in the East because they dominated, me and my other friend proceeded to laugh at that joke.

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:16 am ]
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I really don't get why Ilitch is politicking so much. He doesn't have a legit argument. Before 1993-94, when they were put into their current division under the "Western" Conference, they were in the old Norris division with basically the same teams. Two have changed but the travel distances are the same (Minnesota=Nashville, Toronto=Columbus). Either way, prior to 93-94 they were still going to the west coast on occassion during the playoffs, there's just more west coast teams now. Nashville should go to the SE and maybe start to make that a competetive division for once, and Detroit can go cry me a river.

Author:	Squanto [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:18 am ]
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I've been championing the 3 move option (NSH to SE, MIN to Central, and WPG to NW) since this topic first came up when Atlanta was sold. It's the least disruptive overall. A lot of people want them to blow it up and start over, but I'm not a fan of that either. Doesn't make sense to me when Phoenix and the Islanders could move within 5 years. Then you might be in the same boat.

Author:	Mr. Natural [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:23 am ]
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BagBoy wrote: This was on TSN today: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=377916 Anyone who wants to take a stab at realignment needs to read this article first. This is more complicated than a Rubik's Cube.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:59 pm ]
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote: I really don't get why Ilitch is politicking so much. He doesn't have a legit argument. Before 1993-94, when they were put into their current division under the "Western" Conference, they were in the old Norris division with basically the same teams. Two have changed but the travel distances are the same (Minnesota=Nashville, Toronto=Columbus). Either way, prior to 93-94 they were still going to the west coast on occassion during the playoffs, there's just more west coast teams now. Nashville should go to the SE and maybe start to make that a competetive division for once, and Detroit can go cry me a river. Ummm, Washington, Tampa, ans Carolina aren't competitive enough? Washington has won the East the last three years, Tampa is easily a playoff team and Carolina is a bubble team. It's not the Southleast division anymore.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:10 pm ]
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I don't think Carolina is good. In a game where the Sabres did a shitty job of getting pucks on net and passed and dangled too much they still let up 42 shots on Ward. Had 0 threatening scoring chances that didn't come off Sabres miscues. Was horrible 5 on 5. One ward/staal/skinner injury from fighting snottawa for a lottery pick.

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Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:57 pm ]
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Washington chokes, TB is good for the first time since 2004, and Carolina might be good for the first time since 2006. No it's not horrible, but...

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:17 pm ]
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its sounding more and more like detroit will join the south east division. just what its sounds like from here. depends on what PHX does, cause i really believe this is their last season in the desert.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:16 pm ]
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Boo, give the east a shitty team. We want columbus! We want columbus! This is all a giant conspiracy by bettman to inflate the southleast so he can say LOOK, three teams from the southleast made the playoffs! southern hockey works!

Author:	patkane88 [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:25 pm ]
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Here is what I would do. East Conf. Northeast 1 Buffalo 2 Toronto 3 Boston 4 Montreal 5 Detroit 6 Pittsburgh 7 Ottawa Atlantic 1 Tampa 2 Florida 3 Carolina 4 Washington 5 Philly 6 Rangers 7 Islanders 8 NJ West Conf Central 1 Chicago 2 Winnipeg 3 Nashville 4 St. Louis 5 Dallas 6 Minnesota 7 Columbus - thinking they might become Kanas City so its best to leave them here 8 Colorado Pacific 1 Vancouver 2 Calgary 3 Edmonton 4 San Jose 5 LA 6 Anaheim 7 Phoenix -???????????????????