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Author:  Captain Pants [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  The Big Bad Max Thread - Merged & Updated - 11 Goals.
4 point night tonight, putting him at 16 points in 16 games.... Isn't that higher than any sabre this season?

Change of scenery was all he needed apparently
Author:  Howie Hodge [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Max who.
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Surprised he is that high of a point total.

Many players have a breakout year when they leave, and especially for a guy who is needing to earn another contract for next year.

I still doubt he'll keep up his pace.

But anyone who plays with Kovalchuk should have those numbers. Both of them had 2 goals and 2 assists tonight.
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
A-giveawayagain-ov?
Author:  Sabresfansince1980 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
And even after tonight, still only a +1. He's getting scored on left and right too.
Author:  mechaphil [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Yea, Kots is playing well, too. Seems like one-dimensional, all-offense players do well when they leave the Sabres...OH YEA and make it onto a team with an offensive superstar! Without the dynamite Russians in Atlanta and Gaborik in New York, they'd look like the same old bums.
Author:  Sabresfansince1980 [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Kots has 17 pts and is a -7. He has 13 PP pts so that means he's been scored on 11 times at even strength. Not so great looking anymore.
Author:  mechaphil [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Like I said, one-dimensional, all-offense.
Author:  fly as hale [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Good for Max, I'm happy for him.
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Look at the effort Max is putting into playing in those highlights.

That is a much different Max than what he gave us the past few years.

I don't care what anybody said. He just didn't work hard here. Period. And that's what pisses me off about him.
Author:  Captain Pants [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Look at the effort Max is putting into playing in those highlights.

That is a much different Max than what he gave us the past few years.

I don't care what anybody said. He just didn't work hard here. Period. And that's what pisses me off about him.

It has rarely been disputed that Max tried hard... I really have NO IDEA where that came from. He was offensively gifted but just kinda dumb in the sense of how he channelled it. I'm glad he's doing well for Atlanta, and happy for what he did in Buffalo even if he had a rough couple years.

He always tried hard
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Captain Pants wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Look at the effort Max is putting into playing in those highlights.

That is a much different Max than what he gave us the past few years.

I don't care what anybody said. He just didn't work hard here. Period. And that's what pisses me off about him.

It has rarely been disputed that Max tried hard... I really have NO IDEA where that came from. He was offensively gifted but just kinda dumb in the sense of how he channelled it. I'm glad he's doing well for Atlanta, and happy for what he did in Buffalo even if he had a rough couple years.

He always tried hard


That's what everyone always says, and that's why I never argue against it.

But if you watched that Atlanta game, and then you watch a Sabres game that Max played in last year, you can tell. Max wasn't trying.
Author:  Markus [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Phil is 100% correct.

Points do not tell the entire story. Max could have 100 points this season, but still have sucked.
No defense players = SHITE

Max and Kots don't know what backchecking is.
Author:  Howie Hodge [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Atlanta is scoring at a pretty good clip, but none of their players are that impressive in +/-. Peverley is leading them in scoring also.....
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Markus wrote:
Phil is 100% correct.

Points do not tell the entire story. Max could have 100 points this season, but still have sucked.
No defense players = SHITE

Max and Kots don't know what backchecking is.


This post is why I am glad Adam Mair almost never sees the ice.
Author:  slesh [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
I tend to agree with Phil here. I am very happy they are doing well, but once again, the records of the Rangers and the Thrashers speak for themselves.
They play tough opponents such as Philly, Pitt and NJ and it is showing. A tough division for the Rangers. Atlanta will be battling with Ovie and Caps for top spot in their division.

Offense is needed to keep pace, but they each could use help defensively, thats why I am promoting the Pommers + Tallinder/Lydman + Prospect/Pick for Gaborik from the Rangers or Vanek + Tallinder/Lydman/Prospect/Pick for Kovalchuck from Atlanta

:) :) :)
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
If the playoffs would start today, the ENTIRE Atlanta division would make it.

2 South East teams would make it, and one NorthEast division team would be in it right now.

So Atlanta is climbing for sure.
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
So why is it an offensive player that contributes little defense is villified, while a defensive player that contributes little offense can be lauded?
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
So why is it an offensive player that contributes little defense is villified, while a defensive player that contributes little offense can be lauded?

Actually, it is moreso the opposite.

We bitch about Hecht so much because he can't play offense, but plays sound defense for us.

Yet we bitched about certain players 1 dimensional ways of only putting up offense and not backchecking.

It's a world in if you're winning you just don't care who's doing what on the ice as long as they are winning the games.
Author:  gssmvak [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Remember Our Ol' Buddy Max?
Kovalchuk about Max's play in Atlanta:

Quote:
"Max seems like he's got a second life in hockey. In Buffalo he just take a beating from the coach, and was told stuff and they bench him. You can't do that to those kind of players. He's one of the hardest working I ever see. Off the ice he's in the gym every day and he's preparing himself. Johnny trusts him and put him in key situations. He feels more comfortable and he gives you results... He's every day, he's smiling, and that's the most important thing. In Buffalo you can't smile. If you smile you sit on the bench."



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