Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
With those google stats I would take news volume as a good indication of how many "normal" people know of one over the other.
Yeah I wasn't disagreeing, I just threw it up there for everyone.
To go back to the original post, I don't think Kathy Griffin (or any comedienne) has any responsibility to be any kind of role model for young women.
Not a role model, but to stop perpetuating the idea that anyone not a Vic's Secret model or Calvin Klein heroin junkie is fat. I suppose that subject is debatable though only due to the number of celebs who make thoughtless remarks on the subject. What isn't debatable is that Griffin has been sliced and diced a number of times with obviously mixed results to look thin and (still) fugly. Not only is that hypocritical based on her efforts under the knife, but hypocritical having seen the lack of return on her investment.
Do you not see the sad irony in that?
I don't have a problem with it at all because I don't hold her to being that type of role model. If it was someone who actually has an influence over young women, like Miley Cyrus, then fine. But Kathy Griffin caters to adults, people who are mature enough to know better than starving or puking themselves to oblivion. If you want to rip on someone, rip on Rachel Weisz, who has a plethora of quotes about how wrong it is for Hollywood to perpetuate the stereotype that not being skinny makes someone unattractive...
"Los Angeles makes you feel ugly. I`m not going to pretend I haven`t secretly wanted to be super-skinny, because all girls do.But I have a woman`s body, not a boy`s body. Most women do and should feel proud of their butts and their breasts and their bell..." But who lost about 20 pounds to play Evy in The Mummy Returns? Nice one Rachel...
I don't think the fact that Griffin has undergone plastic surgery makes her a hypocrite. That's not the definition of hypocricy. She wasn't making fun of Palin for being 30% plastic (THAT would be hypocrisy), she was making fun of Palin for being overweight, something that she is not. It's not really ironic either. It would be ironic if Griffin herself ballooned over the next couple of weeks, or if it was found that Palin actually lost weight over the course of the show. It would have also been ironic if the crowd had cheered since Griffin was pretty obviously expecting boos.
This is what I see:
She made a joke she knew wouldn't go over well with her audience for shock value. The comment was pretty accurate (having seen snippets of Palin on DWTS), and Bristol Palin and her "fans" didn't like it. End of story. Next week on "Holy Shit, Comics do Risque things!" Lisa Lampanelli calls a black guy a nigger to his face and makes him laugh.