Nice, that is the perfect summarized summary of the documentary. It doesn't make you want to smoke, it just shows you why cannabis is where it is today, and helps take away lies and stereotypes surrounding it.
Thanks for saying what I should have said about it Makes my job easier since I bet many people who don't smoke feel its a cannabis advocates propaganda film, when really it is not.

Exactly. Global warming is a perfect example. Its a way for the rich to get richer while making it seem llike they're improving the world. Its a lie, but people still buy into it because they feel society will better from it.
Just like the war on marijuana(I didn't want to say drugs because mj should not be grouped in with hard drugs like crack and heroin... those are more deserving of a war... though I feel it should be your personal choice).

There is so much too benefit from. A thread being created, swaying my history teachers point of view, documentaries like The Union, medical marijuana in Canada and various states, positive New York Times articles... these are all signs that the support is growing as the world becomes more educated.

Education will set you free.

First off, this topic is bomb. I didn't vote, but I'm like Beth. I had anxiety before, which basically forced me to sobriety(and it may again), so I now take every opportunity to drink and smoke I get(because I enjoy it a lot). It took a lot of balls for indc to make this statement, but I've always felt it's true. People have touched on how certain chemicals affect people differently, ad it's SOOOO true(my sensitivity is acute). While I understand that(like Squanto said) there has to be blanket enforcement of DWI, it is NOT a TRUE judge of a person's ability to drive. The punishment is the same for a person who can't handle their booze as for a person who can manage it just fine. I understand that the law must be there, and it's hard to handle it case by case, but this is now a VERY SERIOUS crime, and shouldn't be lumped like it is with this degree of severity. I have no solutions(so easy on the flaming), but putting someone in the gulag when they actually weren't a threat is an injustice imo. I think there may be a bit of profit taking by the court system(which is becoming common place too, but diff topic) taking place too.



Wow, I thought everyone just jumped on the bus, and took the ride nowadays. Good to know some people still learn the facts for themselves. I'm sure you know who Mr. Anslinger is.

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One of my most hated men in history. Directing a campaign against marijuana to benefit certain big businesses by taking away the hemp market (one of the most profitable markets STILL in the world, considering how versatile and strong the fiber is).

So basically he jeopardized every user that benefits from this harmless plant medically, and recreationally by helping start this phony war on marijuana. Obviously there were many more people and more reasons(one of them being that marijuana helps open peoples minds to thinking and questioning things, and it also makes people more passive in nature. This is not good in the eyes of the many politicians and for the war efforts of the time).

Either way, you don't have to use it to realize that the plant should be legal. All you have to do is educate yourself on the subject. The benefits out weigh the burdens. The problem is, people who don't use marijuana generally don't educate themself on the subject matter. I'm not faulting them for it, its just how it is. This is why I am so glad marijuana is finally getting good press in big time newspapers and programs.

Never tried it because it's illegal to possess. Never cared to try it because the smell of it gives me a headache. I won't try it because I'd put my career in jeopardy. I won't ever try it because there's nothing so good about being high on mj that would be worth sacrificing my principles.

For comparison, I like beer and some liquor. I like certain types of beer, and always consume responsibly. I found out about good beer and realized that I liked it because it's legal to drink. If it were against the law I wouldn't drink due to my principles. I don't need the taste of beer or the effects of alcohol so much that I would commit criminal acts.

On a practical note, alcohol is regulated and we can be pretty confident in that what's on the label is what's in the bottle. MJ is a street product that can be good/bad/whatever plus a little mystery ingredient at times. It's a risk, and an illegal risk...no thanks.

I consider those that stand by their weed so staunchly as somewhat comical. Is weed really that important that you'll study, research, and defend it to the Nth degree? The answer is no. It's an age old herbal product that has some medical benefit for certain people, but any research outside of medicinal use is a vain effort to defend their high. There really has to be something more productive to do with your time.

So you had your first beer at the age of 21?

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The only proven medical benefits of Cannabis were discovered a long time ago.

The legality issue has discouraged scientific research due to the difficulty of working with a banned substance.

Even with limited research, it's been found that there are chemicals in Cannabis effective in neutralizing dead and dying lung cells, as well as stunting the growth of cancerous tumors, and possibly even shrinking them.

If laws weren't so strict, these investigations would be improved upon 10 fold.

It's funny how people like you say that this drive and effort to help change the image of Cannabis is a "vain effort to defend our high." It just goes to show how ignorant people can be.

I don't need to defend my high. Weed is not difficult to obtain. I don't have any desire to make it easier, because there's no point in wasting energy for that.

There is serious potential for safe and effective medications to be derived from Cannabinoids, and they're just going by the wayside.

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No ETC, I tried beer in my teens at home under the supervision of my father, which is legal. Tried that is, not slam 'em home one after another while good ole dad watched me get hammered. I went out for beer on my own at age 19, in Canada where it's legal.

PSP, you contradict yourself by saying that the only proven medical benefits were found long ago, but that laws somehow prevent current medical research from happening. I know that the drug laws do not prevent any legit medical research. It is not banned from medical studies. We do not know all of it's medical benefits, just as we don't know a lot about cancer. Possession and trafficking laws have nothing to do with that.

"It's funny how people like you say that this drive and effort to help change the image of Cannabis is a "vain effort to defend our high." It just goes to show how ignorant people can be."

What's the big and noble cause for defending the use of cannabis then? To save millions from glaucoma??

So, you never had a beer on US soil before the age of 21 without your father's supervision? You graduated high school without ever having a beer anywhere except at home with your dad? Not a sip of alcohol at your prom, at a Bills game, at a friend's party? Zero, zip, nada? Wow...and in Buffalo, no less?

The peer pressure had to be unbelievable for you. You definitely win the award for most obsessive rules follower of all time!

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You truly are a sheep to government laws. Try questioning things now and then; 'individual thinking' is the most valuable asset you have .

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They don't prevent reserach from happening, but they make it 50 times more difficult. The regulations and paperwork prevent the investment into research from happening.

In addition, how are you supposed to conduct research on its effects on humans when it's illegal for the average joe to possess it?

As far as personally researching it goes, have you ever heard of wine or beer connoisseurs? Are you going to tell them that their passion is stupid? I find Cannabis interesting. There's a lot to know about it. Excuse me for having a hobby.

The noble cause for defending the use of cannabis is potential benefits that can come from its use, let alone its research.

Why is it that a high is so frowned upon compared to a buzz? In all seriousness, why?

Lets look at this logically. What are the medicinal values of alcohol, aside from drinking a glass of wine a week to decrease the risk of heart disease, due to its antioxidants?

Nothing. Alcohol in itself is a human poison that trashes your liver and dehydrates your body.

THC in Cannabis provides the high, but it's also effective in a number of different areas that I've mentioned earlier in this thread.

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Crap....I just voted and now i got the PoPo in my driveway

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ETC, please don't give me a hard time about it.

Capt pants, I'm not a sheep to gov't laws just because I'm in law enforcement. In fact, I have plenty of opportunity to see hypocrisy up close and personally. I simply believe in following laws even if I don't like them. If I don't like them enough there are legal routes to take to change them. Everybody has that option instead simply breaking the law.

PSP, you have apparently misunderstood most of what I've typed...

Yes, there will be additional hoops to jump through to research marijuana. That's because of the huge amount of abuse under so-called medicinal marijuana clinics and such. I could go on for hours about that (the conflicts in California) but I don't have the energy for it. The average joe is not possessing marijuana if they are using it under a controlled medical experiment. Please tell me that question was a joke.

The difference between beer connoisseurs and cannabis users is that one is legal and the other is not, simple enough?

I'm all for medical research of any sort, but that's not what the 420 crowd is about.

I don't put a beer buzz ahead of a high...I couldn't care less. Since alcohol is legal and I'm responsible with it (and I enjoy the actual taste of certain beers) I'll use it. I don't use alcohol because I have some staunch belief in it's buzz, medical value, etc. It's a relatively cheap way to have a good time that I could manage without if it was illegal.

Marijuana is illegal so deal with it. It's not some great mystery of a miracle herb that is being held down by a gov't conspiracy. It's got some medical value, with more to be learned. Otherwise it's just another cheap high that isn't worth risk involved.

Although I admit to being a very rare user, I am on a fence about it on a few topics:

Alcohol vs Pot: Take away legalities. I've seen people that are high and people that are drunk. USUALLY, the high people are chilled out and passive, whereas the drunks are USUALLY angry and violent. Put it this way, under the influence of one or the other, the violent ones have usually been drinking, not smoking.

Add in legalities, and I see no reason why one would be legal and the other not. In fact, it should almost be the other way around. Both are highly addictive. I've known people that smoke daily and need it to feel 'normal', much in the way Paxil or Prozac is used for an anti depressant or anti anxiety. However...it is my belief that their need for the drug was brought on by the use of the drug in the first place. These users are serious procrastinators and lead much less productive lives than if they could just kick the addiction or had never gotten hooked in the first place.

I don't know if pot is 'poisonous' to your body like alcohol is. Everyone likes to catch a little buzz now and then. Some like beer, some like a glass of wine, some like pina colatas or magaritas. I hate the effects of alcohol on my body. Back in the day, I loved Alabama Slammers. I could drink two with a straw in about five minutes. Then, my fun night was killed by dizziness and puking and probably getting talked into horrible things with some wretched dude that would end up showing up at my work the next day to take me to lunch and my friends looking at me and saying, "Don't look at me...you're the one that gave him your number!" I hate alcohol. I hate the sickening feeling it gives me and the hangovers.

And I hate wasting my anniversary feeling sick. So, my husband gets us a little somethin somethin, I let my hair down and we have a blast! I wake up with wonderful memories of the night before that would have been shadowed (without the pot) by wondering if they were okay, if I packed their toothbrushes, if my husband was lookign at my stretchmarks. The pot takes the edge off without making me sick...I dunno, maybe I had too many Alabama Slammers in the 80's and now I have no tolerance for it...but I love to smoke a little, but once a year only. I know the risks of smoking it more often and keep it to this minimum.

Just my opinion...I think that if alcohol can be legal, than so should pot. I think its the lesser of the two evils.

My 2 cents...

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WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. Please look the facts before you post garbage like this. Die from a brain issue. Its Marijuana not fkn mushrooms. You will never get any kind of brain disease from smoking marijuana alone. Nor will you die from it unless you smoke 7 pounds in 5 minutes. No one can do that. As far as lung cancer that theory has already been shot down through numerous studies. If anyone should go home and watch The:Union to educate themselves on Pot it should be you because u have completely fallen for the war on drugs. Not saying there aren't negatives but not death lol.

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Eh

i graduated high school without ever even holding a beer unless it was being transported from the car to the fridge or the fridge to my dad.

Here is a link to watch The Union online for anyone that is interested.... just scroll down and its in a googlevideo box.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-unio ... ting-high/

I was done debating with you after that statement right there.

That is the common misconception with marijuana users. As a police officer, I'm sure you see plenty of arrests related to pot, and maybe that's distorting your view.

But I'm sure you've also seen plenty of drunk ass holes punching each other out at bars, or beating their wives.

Point is, the vast majority of cannabis users are normal people who work just as hard as anybody else.

Point being, don't stereotype cannabis users, because it's not right.

There is no such thing as a '420' crowd.

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