Laugh at what I believe in all you want, I'll do the same to you then.

I still think marriage is between a man and woman who actually love and care for each other now, and it shouldn't just get thrown away or thrown around like a hooker in downtown LA.

I disagree Beth, Religion and marriage has been around since before today's current trend of marriage. And marriage today is not viewed as something special, that is why the divorce rate is at 50%, if it was truly what you're saying more marriages would last because of that religious viewpoint and specialness.

Even if there were planned marriages back in the day, more then not, they loved each other deeply and fell in love. There were periods of trends with it to help preserve something like royalty, and family names. But I'm sure most were because of actual love, not lets get married for the hell of it like today.

Haha, Me and Mike agree on something like Marriage.

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you said man and woman. i believe its man and woman, or man and man, or woman on woman (giggidy)

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If Tiger Woods wants to have a hot wife at home, and still go around throwing it in hookers, that's his choice. It's not anyone's place to judge that.

The only marriage anyone should ever worry about is their own. Everyone else's situation is nobody's business.

As far as Tiger, I could care less what he does off the course.

People get married for many different reasons, and it always doesn't have to do with love.


How would you know?

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They just did. Shut up. Nyeh.

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Marriage predates monotheistic religion and was around when polytheistic (i.e., no longer recognized religions) were predominant. Marriage predates Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Marriage originated solely as property preservation and for bloodlines, also known as arranged marriages. Fathers always tried to marry their daughters off to a prestigious family or for something in return. Love was often not a variable. I'm sure some women and men came to love each other eventually, but there wasn't a period of dating, engagement, etc.

The reason the divorce rate is so high now can be primarily attributed to the fact that women aren't so dependent on men anymore and can actually support themselves.

Religion definitely shapes the way people view marriage. Otherwise, this whole sanctity of marriage bullshit wouldn't exist. Anyone should be able to marry whatever human being they please, regardless of sex. There is absolutely no reason, other than religious, that is holding a same sex couple from getting married.

there are plenty of religious people who believe in same sex marriage, and plenty of non religious people who dont. sure thats probably the driving force behind it, but alot of the people who are vocally open against it are extreme.

the only thing that annoys me about this kinda stuff is every time we see something that is injustice towards fellow man, everyone always jumps on the "lets hate on religion" train, and that annoys me. theres a reason these stories make the press; they are not every day, common stories.

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Fine, make the news in the People or Life & Arts sections, but I don't wanna see it covered on ESPN like a 15-year-old won Wimbledon or the Bills finally won the Super Bowl. It doesn't belong there.

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mechaphil

hes the biggest sports star in the world. love it or hate it, it was the big story off the playing field in sports. it was always off to the side on the headlines list, but it was never the main story on espn.com... i mean, hell, a story above it is "gailey lectures teens about heckling bills players." its a slow sports news time of year.

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My issue is more with ESPN behaving like E! for sportos, as I previously posted, and the Tiger Woods divorce story is but the latest chapter. Did you know they covered Brett Favre's arrival in Minneapolis by shadowing his truck with a fucking helicopter like it was the OJ case? There's a reason I don't watch ESPN, and that reason keeps getting bigger.

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mechaphil

I'm with you Phil.

I used to watch MTV because they played music. When the stopped, I moved elsewhere. I'm getting to that point with ESPN. I want sports. I don't want ESPN-TMZ.

such is life when you are a mega star, i guess. i dont agree with it, but at the same time, it doesnt bother me.

i personally go to espn for all my sports news outside hockey. they usually have the best jump on everything, like damon being picked up off waivers by boston.

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God damn you, you beat me to it. Marriage has pagan roots, woot!

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Then tell me, would you marry some random guy off the street then, to all the women in here and same with men, would you just marry a random girl, or would you actually take the time to love them before you decided to get married?

Because you're being hypocritical of your own self if you say you would marry a man just because of bloodlines and arrangement now, would you?

I don't care if Marriage has Pagan roots or not, it should be about love now, and that might have changed due to religion, but who cares, that is what people view it now.

I'm not against same sex marriage and I believe in God. If they honestly love each other let them wed. I may be one who do not think it should be called marriage, as I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but being united in a relationship should be between whoever, be it man and man, woman and woman.

I don't buy into the whole reason divorce rates are higher is because women can support themselves better at all, they may be able to compared to the 1900s, but men still make more money and can do the physically harder jobs better, another reason why more males are getting nursing jobs over females, because the male can move a patient with better ease over a female.

You're not going to change my mind on marriage, it is something special and should be treated as such, and the persons involved should be in love before they plan to get married. If you don't believe in marriage or love fine by me, enjoy your life alone then.

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woah, aaron, i dont think we agree on marriage. i think its special between people who love each other. regardless of the gender ratio.

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I don't care if gays get married if they love each other, but to me marriage is defined like it is in the bible between a man and woman, so don't call it a "marriage" I'm not against gay couples at all.

Let them have every right a man and woman do, but call it unity or something.

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or just call it a marriage.

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Who gives a shit what you call it?

A marriage in the eyes of the church means the same thing if you call it marriage or potato. Why all this consternation over the word when it should be about the meaning?

If a religion doesn't want to marry a gay couple, fine. I have no problem with that. But get the hell out of the way for a legal version to happen.

At this point in the thread, didn't this thread already happen?

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what he said...

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