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 Post subject: Re: 35 days later
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:21 pm 
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Just another reason to lay off the fossil fuel.

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Just another reason to lay off the fossil fuel.

you first ;)

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X-pensfan wrote:
Just another reason to lay off the fossil fuel.

you first ;)



Hahaha, well played sir!


I need to wait for my governments lead, unfortunately. I have no problem at all with driving an electric car that has a max speed of 75mph, but the only problem is that there aren't enough places to charge it! I mean, if I drove to Buffalo I wouldn't have enough juice to drive back! lol

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Just another reason to lay off the fossil fuel.

you first ;)



Hahaha, well played sir!


I need to wait for my governments lead, unfortunately. I have no problem at all with driving an electric car that has a max speed of 75mph, but the only problem is that there aren't enough places to charge it! I mean, if I drove to Buffalo I wouldn't have enough juice to drive back! lol


You're in Pennsylvania?
Even if you had an electric car it would be powered by fossil fuel (coal). ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 35 days later
PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 4:14 pm 
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Crosscheck wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
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Just another reason to lay off the fossil fuel.

you first ;)



Hahaha, well played sir!


I need to wait for my governments lead, unfortunately. I have no problem at all with driving an electric car that has a max speed of 75mph, but the only problem is that there aren't enough places to charge it! I mean, if I drove to Buffalo I wouldn't have enough juice to drive back! lol


You're in Pennsylvania?
Even if you had an electric car it would be powered by fossil fuel (coal). ;)


Naturally, if Consol Energy has anything to say about it.

When the government eases up on some things, my brother (who owns a roofing corp,) is going be heavy into the solar panel industry. He's going to hook up my 2 bedroom home with some solar panels. I'll let ya'll know how THAT goes, and how much I actually save each month.

Now, thinking 10 years down the line, will they generate enough juice to power a car/truck for 50 miles a day? Who knows. What I do know, is that there is a nuclear furnace above everybody's house that we all need to start taking advantage of. There's three rivers in the middle of the city, with swift flowing currents. Why not tap into that? There's a bus in Scotland that is recharged every day from the energy waves create, and it runs all day long. You can even tap into the rain that runs from downspouts.

Personally, I'm, sick of inhaling car exhaust fumes when outside. You can't even walk down the street and hope to have a breath of fresh air. So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:33 pm 
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super. we're looking at a spill that will be minimum 10 times the size of the valdez spill.


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BP has just declared that the Top-kill Failed.


Time for another two weeks at the drawing board! It's pure insanity that BP wasn't required to have some sort of failsafe in place before they could begin drilling. Disgusting

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So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


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X-pensfan wrote:
So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


well put

If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.

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Crosscheck wrote:
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X-pensfan wrote:
So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


well put

If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.

First thing in a few weeks I've agreed with you on.
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Crosscheck wrote:
If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.


Believe what ya want, doesn't change the truth though.

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Believe what ya want, doesn't change the truth though.

Truths:
1. We were buying as much oil as we wanted from Iraq prior to the war
2. Iraq was stable and the oil fields were producing steady supplies prior to the invasion
3. We imported the most oil from Iraq in the years leading up to the war.
4. Since we invaded we've imported less and less oil from Iraq
5. Since we invaded the oil supply from Iraq has been less stable and predictable
6. We're not selling or making any money off of their oil fields

When you actually apply logic to the "wars for oil" BS line it doesn't hold water.

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Just because we weren't "welcomed as liberators" and didn't get things up and running lickity split like the big wigs thought doesn't mean we didn't go in with ulterior motives. The idea was that it would be easy and quick which wouldn't have effected oil production like it has. A reduction in oil production and purchasing from Iraq doesn't "logically" mean that we didn't go to war for oil. If I planned to break into a jewelry store and got caught by the police you could apply your logic and say "well I didn't get any jewels and I haven't made any money so I must not have gone into that store with intention to steal."

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We didn't go to war for oil. It's as simple as that. You think if we took control of areas and then installed our pumps that they wouldn't become easier targets for rockets, mortars, and suicide bombers than A MOVING CONVOY?!

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Crosscheck wrote:
Displaced Fan wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


well put

If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.



They got you in their pocket. You can't rally a nation with a War for Oil campaign, so you put a dress on that pig and call it a Crusade for Democracy or some other sappy thing. Sure it would be nice if SOMEBODY over there ended up not wanting to destroy us when they grow up, but the real thing is the oil. You can't fly a 37 million dollar fight jet without it and those one billion year old fossils that have turned into oil aren't going to replenish themselves over night. Whoever owns the oils is going to have the most powerful military. American wants to make sure that's us. Making Iraq or parts of that area our allies, makes us more powerful. They get a Wal-Mart and McDonald's ignore their kids and watch porn all day like American's do. Everybody wins?

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X-pensfan wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
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X-pensfan wrote:
So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


well put

If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.



They got you in their pocket. You can't rally a nation with a War for Oil campaign, so you put a dress on that pig and call it a Crusade for Democracy or some other sappy thing. Sure it would be nice if SOMEBODY over there ended up not wanting to destroy us when they grow up, but the real thing is the oil. You can't fly a 37 million dollar fight jet without it and those one billion year old fossils that have turned into oil aren't going to replenish themselves over night. Whoever owns the oils is going to have the most powerful military. American wants to make sure that's us. Making Iraq or parts of that area our allies, makes us more powerful. They get a Wal-Mart and McDonald's ignore their kids and watch porn all day like American's do. Everybody wins?


Dude....the largest oil reserves are in: #1 - Saudi Arabia (who doesn't want to be remotely linked to Iraq, and usually deem it unfortunate that they're even on the same continent) and #2 - Canada. If we really want oil - I'm going to guess we venture north.

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NYIntensity wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
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X-pensfan wrote:
So this green revolution is fine by me, just wish it started before thousands of people had to die in wars.


well put

If you think we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan for oil you're so horribly misguided I don't know what to say.
Basing your beliefs on protest signs isn't recommended.



They got you in their pocket. You can't rally a nation with a War for Oil campaign, so you put a dress on that pig and call it a Crusade for Democracy or some other sappy thing. Sure it would be nice if SOMEBODY over there ended up not wanting to destroy us when they grow up, but the real thing is the oil. You can't fly a 37 million dollar fight jet without it and those one billion year old fossils that have turned into oil aren't going to replenish themselves over night. Whoever owns the oils is going to have the most powerful military. American wants to make sure that's us. Making Iraq or parts of that area our allies, makes us more powerful. They get a Wal-Mart and McDonald's ignore their kids and watch porn all day like American's do. Everybody wins?


Dude....the largest oil reserves are in: #1 - Saudi Arabia (who doesn't want to be remotely linked to Iraq, and usually deem it unfortunate that they're even on the same continent) and #2 - Canada. If we really want oil - I'm going to guess we venture north.


We got a pretty good relationship with Saudi Arabia and Canada is certainly a friend. Just a few more uncooperative areas to go until we will be the ultimate power in the universe. This war is going to end in about 20 years. With us having strong allies in the Iraq area that will by then have overcome their reluctancy and will have accepted our subtle take over. The war machine never stops growing, it will continue to branch out until everybody sees things our way. Just as long as we call it something else we are cool.

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We didn't go to war for oil. It's as simple as that. You think if we took control of areas and then installed our pumps that they wouldn't become easier targets for rockets, mortars, and suicide bombers than A MOVING CONVOY?!


I'm sure it was never about owning or running the pumps over there, but getting an allied government in an oil supplying country was a very welcome part of the action.
I guess nobody was happy to buy significant amounts of oil from a country with an anti-western government (dictator) and expose yourself to all kind of possible pressure over the oil supply.
Nobody can ever know if oil was a reason for the war, but the pre-war situation and lack of other reasons indicate that it has probably made the decision to go to war easier.

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NYIntensity wrote:
We didn't go to war for oil. It's as simple as that. You think if we took control of areas and then installed our pumps that they wouldn't become easier targets for rockets, mortars, and suicide bombers than A MOVING CONVOY?!


I'm sure it was never about owning or running the pumps over there, but getting an allied government in an oil supplying country was a very welcome part of the action.
I guess nobody was happy to buy significant amounts of oil from a country with an anti-western government (dictator) and expose yourself to all kind of possible pressure over the oil supply.
Nobody can ever know if oil was a reason for the war, but the pre-war situation and lack of other reasons indicate that it has probably made the decision to go to war easier.



Exactly, and it's not small potatoes like a few people are suggesting. Once all of iraq is explored it's estimated to have 1/4 of the world's oil, more than Saudi Arabia. Coalition forces have secured the main stream line in Iraq and are going to have it back online if not already.

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