If its non-addictive then it's a habit not an abuse issue eh?


This is where we agree.


There is only one thing that calms me down and motivates me. Xanax



Me too

I'm not sure the point you're trying to make, but things that are 'non-addictive' or 'non-habit forming' can still be a regular occurrence.

Are you addicted to eating burgers, watching television, surfing the Internet? I don't think so, but you're still gonna do it every once in a while.

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I'm not sure what I meant either. I'm semi-drunk and tired. If I was stoned , I'd maniacally be googling all the facts for you like any good stoned person would be. Instead, I'm just going to go to sleep

Studies have shown that you are only slightly less likely to be involved in an accident under the influence of THC as you are under the influence of alcohol.

You are over 6 times more likely to get into an accident under the influence of THC than completely sober.

THC affects the same parts of the central nervous system as alcohol does.

It's equally as bad to drive under the influence of THC or alcohol, and worse to drive under the influence of both.

Read this:

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I've been in 4 car accidents sober. I've been driving for 4 years.
I've been smoking and driving for 2 years. I have yet to get into an accident high. It effects people differently (sometimes due to tolerance).

and to whoever said they didn't want to because of lungs, see if you have a friend with a vaporizer. Its 100% thc, no cannaboids and no shitty smoke to stain your lungs. I skateboard and run alot so I needed something so I didn't get winded so easy. The vaporizer helped me keep up my stamina up, and keep up with something I personally enjoy and benefit from.



and btw, Tolerance is a huge thing when it comes to marijuana. Your first couple times will be extremelly intense and you might not like how controlling it is. Once you smoke a little more the intensitiy will go down and you'll learn how to control it.

Studies contradict those views.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/re ... iewoft4764

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... ea829541bd

I also, as you probably know, used to work in EMS. While I can across a good number of alcohol related car accidents, I also came across a good number of those that only involved marijuana.

THC impairs many of he same motor functions that alcohol does, albeit in different ways. In my view ( and the view of the law), you should never drive a vehicle while under the influence of anything that impairs your motor skills or decision making. Illegal substances or not, impaired driving is dangerous. Period.

Oh I agree. Even in the article I posted, it didn't suggest that it was okay to drive.

It is just argued that its effects aren't as detrimental to your driving as alcohol.

Many of those driving impaired are often doing so because their cars are the only place they can smoke without getting in trouble, like college students and others that need to be away from people.

Legalization would take a whole lot of those people off the road.

I'd also like to know what % of high drivers on the road end up in accidents compared to the % of those who drive drunk.

That would be a true indicator.

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Not if you take your keys out of the ignition.

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I'll have to agree with Squanto. Your level of concentration is definitely lowered due to pot. Speaking of which, what was I gonna say next...

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Upon further discussion with a reputable source, it has been determined that simply taking your keys out of the ignition and not placing them out of sight indicates that there was an intent to drive, which would be justification to arrest you for DWI.

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An addiction to me anyways is seeing people do whatever it takes to get their hands on what they want. Dont get me wrong I like to smoke pot but I don't need it as soon as I wake up. I dont even need it at all. I just like to sit down and smoke a joint in my down time. If during that downtime my sister asks for a ride I'm not gonna say NO, I've smoked a joint earlier too fkn bad walk there. NO never in my life would I treat anyone let alone my own family in such disrespect. As I said ETC I go to work everyday sober. If I had a work function at night like I did tonight than I won't smoke before it. But when I get home and I have nothing planned for the night except maybe, grocery shopping or hockey than yes I will smoke a joint. But does that mean I'm addicted? No. Addiction is what Crystal Meth and Coke do to you. You can't live without it. You won't smoke the last of you have until you know you will have more later. Addiction is doing whatever it takes to get back to the state of mind that makes you escape from reality. Am I one of those people. No. I like to smoke when I have the time too. But if I smoke the last joint out of my bag I'm not freaking out wondering where my next bag is coming from. More marijuana will come when I find time for it. I'm not planning it into my expenses like gas or food or anything. It's just a relaxing thing I like to do me in my spare time. Does that sound like addiction? Cause I've met people addicited to E, Coke, Acid, Crack, Meth anything. You name it and I've met an addict for it. Marijuana is not addictive honestly. Sure some people get this perception that they need it. But they can live without it if they had too. Addiction is being controlled by a certain substance. The people that wake up everyday to a cup of coffee every morning are more of an addict anyone because caffeine is a drug. It changes your state of mind therfore is considered a drug. Yet people can drink it all the time and no one will question them. Even though they are living more of a lie than myself because they can't handle themselves in the morning. They need that coffee to wake them up and get them ready for the day. Much like your friends who apparently need marijuana to survive. I am not one of those people. I am a man from BC who loves to smoke pot and watch hockey in his spare time. If that is an addiction than call me Robert Downey Jr. I love to come home after a day of work and smoke a joint and watch hockey. Is that addiciton? No because millions of ppl do that everyday but with a beer instead of a joint and they aren't addicts beacuse it's "legal". Alcohol does just as much if not more damage to the body than alcohol but because its "illegal" people get this bad perception of it.

Wake up and smell the caffeine(lol) alcohol is bad and marijuana is bad. But just because you have one beer or smoke a joint in your downtime doesnt mean your an addict does it ETC?

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Eh

No offence Sk8haggard but Vaproizers dont do shit. You can smoke out of one everyday and I can smoke a joint everyday. Either way our stamina won't be affected. Has anyone ever heard of the beep test? We used to run it in High School and back then I got too about level 9 which means your still in shape. After 2 and a half years of doing not much other than playing hockey and hanging out with friends smoking pot on occassion I went up one full level when I did the beep test again for hockey. You probably paid a shitload for that Vaporizer. Or bought a cheap one. Either way the same amount of THC goes in and the same amount of THC comes out. Everything else in marijuana is chemicals like cigarettes and not even a vaporizer can stop it from getting into your body.

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Eh

It's not bashing something I've never tried before. Saying that it is is like saying it's wrong for me say that driving while text messaging is unwise because I've never done it before. Driving while under the influence of marijuana is objectively not a wise decision, period. Whether or not I've actually ever smoked a joint doesn't have any affect on that, and neither does the fact that driving while drunk is worse. See what I mean?

I do want to clarify, though, that when I quoted the person who referred to you as an idiot (forget who it was) that I wasn't intending to call you an idiot by doing so. My intent was basically to tell the person, "Dude, he still posts here. You probably don't want to just call him an idiot like that." Based on your... heated ( ).... response, I think you misinterpreted my intention. Sorry for not clarifying in my original post; that could have prevented that.

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LOL. Like I said I've had close calls but all body parts remain intact. Sometimes I forget the silent letter.

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Eh

I've driven drunk 3 times not gonna lie. Once I ran over a meridian and another time I got pulled over for DUI. I have never been pulled over while driving baked.

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Eh

I've never done el cannabis because I've never had an interest in it, basically. I mean, I would have at one time, but it wasn't available to me then, soooo.... And besides not having an interest in it, I know I need t to guard myself against a lot of things because I am one of those people that can very easily become addicted to things. Yeah, marijuana's not physically addictive, but it's always the psychological pull of addictions that's the hardest to kick. It's why you never stop being an addict, to some extent. Always there, in the back of your mind...

I don't have a problem with those who do smoke it, though. I mean, whatever. It's not a big deal. I have a cousin, for example, who smokes it every day to prevent him from going back to cocaine, heroine, acid, etc. I've told him that I have absolutely no problem with that, because he went into cardiac arrest twice back in June due to cocaine overdoses... I am still terrified for him, because I love him and because he is more of a brother to me than my actual brothers... I used to spend four or five days at a time at his house constantly when we were kids, and he was always over at mine... We'd do everything together... He's only been clean of everything else since August, and it's still hell for him. So, you know. In circumstances like that, trying to rip that away from him, too, is just stupid because to me, right now, it's either that or he dies, and it's a taaaad bit impossible to OD on marijuana.

Casual users who smoke for less dire reasons are cool, too. Up to a point. I had a coworker over the summer who would routinely show up to work high on marijuana, and he was not the greatest worker those nights. Occasionally he'd be sober, and when he was he was a much better worker, and much less... spacey. But, yeah. In some circumstances, being high is just... no. Don't. But for the most part, whatever.

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I've never driven drunk either, should i try it to find out? Not to mention meth heroine shrooms or acid. Damn, I feel like i should see how these affect my 'motor' skills

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