Back in school, 20 yrs ago, ya, since joining the military, only once and that was for a high school friends funeral last year. A group of my close high school friends got together to say our goodbyes to a friend. We sat around and socially did it while watching old vcr tapes of us as kids.

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Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

You have to realize that as you get higher, you 100% lose ability just as you can be more and more drunk. A single beer is fine to have and drive (For most people >80 lbs) and I'm sure a small high is fine too.

When I'm high, I am very easily distracted (I go big or go home), and I know its a danger for me to walk down stairs let alone drive a car. I'd much rather sit down for a couple hours and talk to friends about absolutely nothing -- which all of a sudden is hilarious. Driving really doesn't appeal to me when high

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When I was a boy I spoke as a boy, I understood as a boy, and I thought as a boy; when I became a man I took that boy outside and shot him.

Interesting.

So far, 62% of those who responded have tried cannabis at least once.

Out of those 62% who have tried it, approximately 3 out of every 5 continue to use it.

38% of those who responded still use Cannabis on a rare to excessive basis.

24% of those who responded moderately to excessively use Cannabis.

10% of those who responded excessively use Cannabis.

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Wheelhouse

I was facepalming because he wasn't suggesting that you try DRIVING stoned.

He was merely implying that you can't understand what Cannabis truly does to you unless you've tried using it.

Having said that, I'll repeat myself; I am not an advocate for driving under the influence of ANYTHING.

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Wheelhouse

woah, this topic got nasty in a hurry.

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Yeah... heated if anything I suppose.

It's under control still.

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Wheelhouse

I'd be jumping in more, but I'm trying to keep my blood pressure down. I just wrote a 12 page paper on cannabis based off of 5 different New York Times articles on it within the past year. Between that paper and showing my proffessor the documentary, "The Union" I completely changed her thoughts on cannabis use.

Its pretty awesome to know you directly affected one of your history teachers view points.

I can't remember the last time I smoked weed, but a lot of my friends use it on a regular basis. I defintely think it should be legalized.

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Hockey Night in Buffalo

I used to get really upset when people trashed Cannabis, but I just think back to how I was in high school.

It's hard to tell high school students that Global Warming is a hoax, because they learn that it's a fact in Earth Science classes.

In health classes, they learn everything government sponsored about Cannabis, so it's just as difficult.

Growing up, I hated marijuana and its users. I literally thought it to be the worst thing in the world. I didn't start smoking until my freshman year at college.

It's literally a frightening subject for some people, and when they've been taught something to be a fact, it's difficult to overturn that, especially when it's taught at such a young and impressionable age.

You've got to consider that when people trash your ideas.

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Wheelhouse

Memory loss? Perhaps you've been smoking too much weed!

http://www.theage.com.au/national/marij ... -2lcb.html

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Please read the thread again;
Sky's saying that you cannot judge him for driving stoned because you've never tried marijuana.

I don't care if you've never tried it, everyone in their right mind understands that you're not when you're high. My point was is that I haven't tried meth either and don't know its effects on me, but I DO know that I shouldn't take it and drive.




your 'need' to oppose my every argument is starting to become a pattern, and of great annoyance.

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When I was a boy I spoke as a boy, I understood as a boy, and I thought as a boy; when I became a man I took that boy outside and shot him.

Captain, get over yourself. Just because I disagree with you on some topics doesn't mean I'm hunting your posts down merely to counter everything you say.

But the discussion here has very clearly suggested that some people react to Cannabis in different ways than others, and I don't think that anyone here has the right to chastise somebody when they don't know how they're affected.

People drive after having a drink because their levels aren't above .08.

Depending on how much one smokes, a person can be fully capable of driving. Most responsible people know how much alcohol they need to consume to break that threshold, and those who smoke know how much they can handle before they break that threshold as well.

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Wheelhouse

YES. That movie is just so enlightening about cannabis and the war on drugs. PLEASE everyone go watch this if u haven't. As I said before it won't convince you too smoke it will just show you some things about cannabis that the gov't never told us about.

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Eh

Now I think i understand... ?

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When I was a boy I spoke as a boy, I understood as a boy, and I thought as a boy; when I became a man I took that boy outside and shot him.

I don't like pot, I don't want my kids to get into pot, I think pot often has many negative and addictive affects on its users, and I also believe pot should be completely legal and regulated by the FDA. No reason adults should not be permitted by law to smoke or consume this product when we permit adults to have access to other recreational drugs like tobacco and alcohol that pose risks and threats when abused.

Doing this would protect users from tainted batches, prevent overcrowding in prisons, take it out of the hands of criminals, and reduce the likelihood that it becomes a stepping stone to harder drugs.

I cannot say the same for harder drugs that cause rapid and potentially lethal physical addictions. They must remain illegal for the general welfare and safety of society.

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Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way. I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better looking each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a hell of a man. Oh lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doin' the best that I can.

Impairment starts before BAC reaches .08. That's just the legal standard that constitutes DWI. In NY, you can get nailed on a DWAI (Driving While Ability Impaired) for as little as .05 . For a male weighing 180lbs, that's 2 drinks in one hour.

I guess my objection to the argument is that saying that someone 'knows' how much of a given substance they can have before becoming impaired is that people are stubborn. Saying 'I know I'm ok, I can do this much of whatever and be fine. I haven't gotten into an accident yet!' is all well and good.... until the first time it isn't ok, and someone gets killed.

Obviously you don't. Did I say that I personally was capable of driving? Was I advocating for driving under the influence?

No. I simply stated that it wasn't my place nor anyone else's to chastise someone for making the decision to drive based on their knowledge of how influenced they are, unless they are WITH the person and know that they shouldn't be driving.

I don't support driving under the influence, but I don't believe that I'm personally capable of determining when someone is or isn't under the influence.

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Wheelhouse

Obviously this subject has stirred up great discussions and some serious emotion. I just wanted to say that the "idiot" statement may have been made more out of emotion without any forethought of who was involved in that discussion. I did apologize to Sky for it.

I may not have tried it but I have personally seen how it can have adverse effects on someones' life. As with anything, it has alot to do with how ones body reacts to it. Trust me, I have know alcoholics that can be a .30 and drive better than most of us....Just understand that cannabis is still a depressant and with any depressant (like alcohol) it WILL adversely affect your CNS.

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Excuse me. I didn't mean to word it suggesting that there's a set amount that's okay. My opinion was based on knowing how they feel at the time.

You can't say, "I can smoke 1 gram of pot and be fine to drive no matter what," because that's like saying you can take any 3 shots of alcohol and be fine to drive, when we all know that 3 shots of Bacardi 151 is quite different than taking 3 shots of rum.

Meanwhile, I'd be very interested in knowing out of those who are so against anyone driving after smoking cannabis, who has driven after having 1 or 2 drinks because they knew they weren't at .08.

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Wheelhouse

I agree with everything you said ETC.

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