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I've never seen the Toyota Massive.

I saw on the news last night that dealers have been ordered to stop selling 6 models....ouch.

...meanwhile Ford quietly picks up Car of the year and North American car of the year...

In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed.
I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers.

you know, i read a story that people (that happened to be from california) were calling 911 to tell the operators that their accelerator was stuck and they were still driving. how frickin stupid can you be? If you can call 911, you can either a) hit your brakes (they will stop the car), b)shift into park (who cares if you drop your transmission? would you rather die?, c) turn your ignition off, or d) use the emergency brake.

it's almost like darwinian evolution.

In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed.
I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers.

Crosscheck wrote:

In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed.
I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers.

e-brakes are typically on a second system that is isolated, so it never fails. you can shift an auto into neutral, at least, and some will still shift into park. the ignition can still be turned off...yes, power steering will be lost...but it's a lot safer.

Crosscheck wrote:

In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed.
I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers.

E-brakes are normally a cable driven system that locks the rear wheels, but if you just rip it or stomp it to the floor you're going to wreck.

And if you're in a panic like that guy apparently was then he would have just stomped it down and lost all control.

Skyline_BNR34 wrote:

if it locks the real wheels (and it does) the chances for accident are very low. it's like running with a bungee cord on your waist...it drags you down to stop. if you are turning and going at a high rate of speed, just like any time you hit the brakes, you will wreck.

Author:	End The Curse [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:41 pm ]
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I own one of the recalled models...a 2007 Camry XLE. Scary shit. Defective gas pedal sticks, and several people have been killed as a result. If you own a Toyota from 2007 on read these FAQ: http://www.wsoctv.com/news/22354095/detail.html

Author:	Crosscheck [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:50 pm ]
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I saw on the news last night that dealers have been ordered to stop selling 6 models....ouch. ...meanwhile Ford quietly picks up Car of the year and North American car of the year...

Author:	Squanto [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:55 pm ]
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I used to have a Ford Ranger. Loved that truck. Ran it for about 140k miles.

Author:	PatGreen [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:18 pm ]
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140k? she was still just a baby.

Author:	Squanto [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:21 pm ]
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Yeah, I treated her like shit. Still ran, I just gave her to a friend since I wanted to upgrade.

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Author:	Crosscheck [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:43 pm ]
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rbochan wrote: I've never seen the Toyota Massive. and brother you don't want to...it's like a Canyonero that blows up like a pinto.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:32 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote: I saw on the news last night that dealers have been ordered to stop selling 6 models....ouch. ...meanwhile Ford quietly picks up Car of the year and North American car of the year... i will never ever drive another ford.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:30 pm ]
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My car asploded on the way to work. Inconvenient. I own an 09 Corolla. From what I can tell the recall is voluntary and only recommended if you experience the gas pedal issue...if you're not dead. There was a recall that had something to do with brake performance in cold weather too. Getting that fixed when it gets inspected in Feb. even though I've experienced no problems to speak of.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:18 pm ]
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Like I said, the only Toyota's I'd probably would own are MKIII and MKIV Supras. And Maybe a 70's Celica.

Author:	Crosscheck [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:11 pm ]
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I have to bump this thread for this story.... http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/83184417.html Oh man that's rich....

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:14 pm ]
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That's funny Cross.

Author:	PatGreen [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:09 pm ]
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you know, i read a story that people (that happened to be from california) were calling 911 to tell the operators that their accelerator was stuck and they were still driving. how frickin stupid can you be? If you can call 911, you can either a) hit your brakes (they will stop the car), b)shift into park (who cares if you drop your transmission? would you rather die?, c) turn your ignition off, or d) use the emergency brake. it's almost like darwinian evolution.

Author:	Crosscheck [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:12 pm ]
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In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed. I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:15 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote: In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed. I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers. You can't shift into park unless the brakes are applied in most Auto trannys, you could however shift it into 2 or one, or turn the ignition off or emergency brake too. or shift the car into neutral would also work.

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Author:	sabresindc [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:27 pm ]
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PatGreen wrote: you know, i read a story that people (that happened to be from california) were calling 911 to tell the operators that their accelerator was stuck and they were still driving. how frickin stupid can you be? If you can call 911, you can either a) hit your brakes (they will stop the car), b)shift into park (who cares if you drop your transmission? would you rather die?, c) turn your ignition off, or d) use the emergency brake. it's almost like darwinian evolution. One word...PANIC. If you listen to that 911 call, the guy is freaking out (as well as he should be) but he is not listening to the calltaker, he is just yelling. The guy was in a complete shutdown and nothing would have brought him back. I'm not blaming the guy, some people just do not handle a life or death situation well.

Author:	PatGreen [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:30 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote: In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed. I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers. e-brakes are typically on a second system that is isolated, so it never fails. you can shift an auto into neutral, at least, and some will still shift into park. the ignition can still be turned off...yes, power steering will be lost...but it's a lot safer.

Author:	sabresindc [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:32 pm ]
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PatGreen wrote: Crosscheck wrote: In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed. I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers. e-brakes are typically on a second system that is isolated, so it never fails. you can shift an auto into neutral, at least, and some will still shift into park. the ignition can still be turned off...yes, power steering will be lost...but it's a lot safer.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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PatGreen wrote: Crosscheck wrote: In most of these cases, the accelerator stuck and the brakes failed. I also believe most modern automatic transmissions won't engage park at speed to compensate for idiot drivers. e-brakes are typically on a second system that is isolated, so it never fails. you can shift an auto into neutral, at least, and some will still shift into park. the ignition can still be turned off...yes, power steering will be lost...but it's a lot safer. E-brakes are normally a cable driven system that locks the rear wheels, but if you just rip it or stomp it to the floor you're going to wreck. And if you're in a panic like that guy apparently was then he would have just stomped it down and lost all control.

Author:	PatGreen [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:53 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: E-brakes are normally a cable driven system that locks the rear wheels, but if you just rip it or stomp it to the floor you're going to wreck. And if you're in a panic like that guy apparently was then he would have just stomped it down and lost all control. if it locks the real wheels (and it does) the chances for accident are very low. it's like running with a bungee cord on your waist...it drags you down to stop. if you are turning and going at a high rate of speed, just like any time you hit the brakes, you will wreck.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:59 pm ]
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PatGreen wrote: Skyline_BNR34 wrote: E-brakes are normally a cable driven system that locks the rear wheels, but if you just rip it or stomp it to the floor you're going to wreck. And if you're in a panic like that guy apparently was then he would have just stomped it down and lost all control. if it locks the real wheels (and it does) the chances for accident are very low. it's like running with a bungee cord on your waist...it drags you down to stop. if you are turning and going at a high rate of speed, just like any time you hit the brakes, you will wreck. Ummm no, all vehicles have ABS, which prevents the wheels from locking up even if your braking and turning at high speeds. The E-brake will lock the rears up and won't always just drag you to a stop. If you lose your brakes you slowly apply the ebrake, you never just slam it, because any slight turn of the wheel you could lose all control of your vehicle.