The contentious climate change debate aside, it is clear that human beings have the potential to seriously screw up large portions of the environment, from the Cuyahoga to Onondaga Lake, to the Hudson, etc.

So ignoring any climate change rhetoric and BS, what are the responsibilities of developed nations, and human beings in general when it comes to caring for the environment?

Lets not forget the turnaround of the Great lakes - back in the sixties you were forbidden to swim in Ontario, and no one would have thought about hosting a salmon fishing derby on it. Agreeably a lot more work needs to be done in this regard!!

one of the major detractors from placing windmills in the great lakes is that they don't want to stir up any of the crap (like PCB's) that has settled in the last ten years.

This statement confuses me.

Ah, ok, thanks for the explanation. I thought the windmill comment was in reference to the shoreline farms, but what you said makes a ton of sense for open water farms.

Recycle your damn paper!! But do tear up shit with your name, address, credit card, etc.

Almost every state I've been to doesn't have recycling period, much less the recycling of paper.

Almost every state I've been to doesn't have recycling period, much less the recycling of paper.

you can have my state....recycling is a religion here. Hell, we have some cities with personal composting mandates.

Kinda like if I cut down to putting one drop of pollution in a gallon of water(from a drop and a half previously), and then some jackass throws a quart of it in afterward. What's the point?