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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

They may be too fat for combat, but they're excellent with a joystick.

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They also have to have a high school diploma, which is a bigger hurdle for most of the would-be soldiers I see.

Maybe they're taking the whole "army of one" thing too literally and trying to get so big that they really are an army all on their own.

Curse you McDonalds!!! A secret Taliban sect that has been working its way into our culture with cheap food, and KILLING US FROM THE INSIDE!!!1!11112!!!!!

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

Maybe if people weren't so stupid and they taught their children not to eat until they get a stomach ulcer.

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

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"Call a cop he robbed Delmore blind!!!"
Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

As it stands right now, I'll be joining the Air Force after I graduate UB in 2011-12

The problem with a lot of the Military Standards are that, they dont take into account a guy with a thick bone structure. I'm 5'11 205 pounds. I am also 18% body fat. Not too shabby considering the national average is somewhere around 25%; or something grossly high like that. I know most people would call me "mildly fit"; I run a mile in under 9 mins now, leg press over 350 pounds, bench over 200, blah blah blah. However the USAF isn't the least bit interested in any of those numbers, they magic number 197lbs. Granted I'm probably more fit than the average guy that's 5'11 205, but they couldn't care less about that. They wont even talk to me seriously about joining until I'm within that 197 pound weight requirement.

It's kind of a joke if you ask me. If someone that's obese wants to join, fine, send them to boot camp until they are within the required weight limits, and then make them serve their 4 years.

Although we could go the other way, and do what Stalin did, anybody not fit to fight, kill em...but that's a bit extreme eh?

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"She's like plan C after an 18 pack"

Squanto 7/27/2010

You know, that's really a brilliant response

It made me laugh, and it's terribly true.

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[quote="jvaccaro6"]It's kind of a joke if you ask me. If someone that's obese wants to join, fine, send them to boot camp until they are within the required weight limits, and then make them serve their 4 years.[quote]

You realize you get paid in boot camp and your contract starts when you ship, right? Fuck that - if your fat ass wants in, lose the weight, so that we can get your ass through boot camp and out into the operating forces where your body is needed. Not in boot camp where you're getting paid to lose weight.

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Hrmm...well my "fat ass" is only a laxative away from making USAF weight; but what I was saying is, make them do boot camp, pay em or not, doesn't make much of a difference, considering they're still going to serve 4 years AFTER boot camp. If it gets more people to want to join the Military, and opens new opportunities for people I fail to see how it's a bad thing. Especially in a time of economic hardship, and high unemployment rates.

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"She's like plan C after an 18 pack"

Squanto 7/27/2010

When I was in boot for the Air Force I was in charge of the so called "fat boy squad" which was a bunch of guys who were over weight and couldn't run their 2 1/2 miles in under 16 minutes. I was chosen cause I ran in high school so I ran with them every night when all the other guys were shining their boots and folding their clothes. Proud to say that every single one of them eventually ran it in 15 flat and graduated boot. From my experience, the main thing keeping people out of the military are criminal offenses and no high school diploma. The main thing getting people kicked out of the Air Force is poor work performance (mouthing off, laziness, chronic trouble kind of troops) and people just plain not wanting to be in the service. If you hate it, and reflect that in crappy work effort then eventually your path with run it's course getting you the old shoe in the ass while you're on the way out the door.

As a side note. The military still uses the ancient Body Mass Index which is widely known as being bupkiss. Guys who are on the short side but live in the gym have to get wavers because their waists and weight are to "big" for their frame....nevermind that they can outrun you and bend you into a pretzel. I was blessed with rabbit fast metabolism and ran marathons while I was in but some of my buddies had to go to the gym all the time just to make "standards". The new Air Force fit tests though are much more in line with real fitness evaluation taking into account run times, situp and pushup abilities, weight, height etc. The best way to go though is just be friends with someone from the HAWC (Health and Wellness Center) and get them to mark your scores better...hahaha!

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The main problem is that the vast majority of military jobs involve your ass and a comfy chair. Office jobs are what make up the bulk of military personnel in all services since it takes way more "support" positions than "combat" positions to make the military run. For every infantry troop, every pilot or tank commander etc you have a legion of medical personnel, admin guys, mechanics, comm troops, guys who work at finance, people who go out and build pretty gazebos for squadron get togethers, contractors, PR people, news people, archivists, troops that refuel the planes and clean the windows, and even an small army of guys who's main job it is to suck the poo from the aircraft's toilet tanks. And the list goes on forever. Hard to stay in shape when you're sitting in a chair all day and don't get time to go to the gym. Some offices will let their troops go work out but most have to be in the office at 7 and then in a lot of cases stay until uber late (more work less people....same pay....yeah!) and it's not universally mandatory to do PT in the mornings.

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Clearly I'm way to heavy for any of the armed services. I mean I could probably pick Jay and Phil up one in each arm and throw them.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

Fat cops are the reason idiots who wear their pants around their knees can still get away.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

I think that's covered by Florida being "special" Zilla

Not a lot of fatties around these parts.

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Hold my beer and watch this...

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

Fat cops piss me off. So do fat military members, though.

It takes 7 support personnel for every infantryman in the Marine Corps. I was one of those 'support', but I'll be damned if I wasn't patrolling and runnin and gunnin in Afghanistan and Iraq.

That's the point - it doesn't matter if you're "support". At some point, you might get called on to exert yourself, and save somebody's life. IF your ass is out of shape, you're the one who needs saving, and may end up costing someone their life.

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