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Author:  NYIntensity [ Mon May 10, 2010 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
I'm supposed to be comparing 32 vs 64 bit Win 7 for my recommendation for the Marine Corps. To me, it's pretty glaring. The operating forces have old gear (printers, etc). This is a short and sweet point paper I'm making. What am I missing, and do I have anything wrong? (XC, Squanto, SATW, in particular?)

- To take advantage of the memory addressing of 64 bit, you need to have at least 4gb of RAM.
- 64 bit does NOT support hardware with 32 bit drivers.
- Some 32 bit programs will simply NOT run on 64 bit OS; others will run at degraded performance levels.
- Not all software will even take advantage of the extra memory that a 64 bit OS supports unless it has been programmed with a 64 bit processor in mind
- 16 bit applications WON’T run (not sure if we even have any in the environment any more)

In short, unless the user is running resource-hungry applications (Photoshop, video editing software, AutoCAD, etc), a 32 bit OS is a safer bet to maintain customer satisfaction and continuity of service.
Author:  Crosscheck [ Mon May 10, 2010 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
In short, to take advantage of a 64bit OS, you need to have a single process addressing more than 2Gb of memory.

Even if you use photoshop heavily, that usage is hard to achieve...maybe video editing large files.

If you're making a recommendation for desktops/laptops/workstations then there's no practical reason to recommend 64bit IMHO.
The real advantage is in server/database applications or purpose built workstations for, as you mentioned, CAD or video editing.

Others please chime in, that's just my $.02
64 bit has been around for decades, it's just trendy in the consumer market now...why, I have no idea.
Author:  NYIntensity [ Mon May 10, 2010 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Crosscheck wrote:
In short, to take advantage of a 64bit OS, you need to have a single process addressing more than 2Gb of memory.

Even if you use photoshop heavily, that usage is hard to achieve...maybe video editing large files.

If you're making a recommendation for desktops/laptops/workstations then there's no practical reason to recommend 64bit IMHO.
The real advantage is in server/database applications or purpose built workstations for, as you mentioned, CAD or video editing.

Others please chime in, that's just my $.02
64 bit has been around for decades, it's just trendy in the consumer market now...why, I have no idea.


Definitely just workstations; our servers are mostly 64 bit running ESX 4.0, AFAIK. Of course there are some legacy systems, but they've done a good job updating and migrating as much as possible.

We're about to pilot a P2V program (I just love abbreviating that...childish, I know) to try to start reeling in the stragglers.
Author:  mechaphil [ Mon May 10, 2010 7:59 pm ]
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Quote:
P2V


i lold
Author:  NYIntensity [ Mon May 10, 2010 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
mechaphil wrote:
Quote:
P2V


i lold

Thanks. Really, it means Physical to Virtual (server speak)
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Mon May 10, 2010 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
I have 64 bit vista and 8 GB of ram...you know...for the apocalypse.
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue May 11, 2010 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
I have 64 bit vista and 8 GB of ram...you know...for the apocalypse.

Do you also have an unlimited supply of .22 ammo also?
Author:  YankeeInRaleigh [ Tue May 11, 2010 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Seeing as how 64 is a bigger number than 32 (almost TWICE as big!) i'd say 64 must be better.

All I know is i've got a dual core dell with 64 bit vista, and I can have like...27 porn vids running at once, it's fucking incredible.
Author:  NYIntensity [ Tue May 11, 2010 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Seeing as how 64 is a bigger number than 32 (almost TWICE as big!) i'd say 64 must be better.

All I know is i've got a dual core dell with 64 bit vista, and I can have like...27 porn vids running at once, it's fucking incredible.

You've probably got boatloads of memory. When it comes to Vista, it's a prerequisite for you to even be able to boot.
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Tue May 11, 2010 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Seeing as how 64 is a bigger number than 32 (almost TWICE as big!) i'd say 64 must be better.

All I know is i've got a dual core dell with 64 bit vista, and I can have like...27 porn vids running at once, it's fucking incredible.


lol me too!
Author:  PatGreen [ Tue May 11, 2010 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
mechaphil wrote:
Quote:
P2V


i lold

i don't get it.
Author:  Montalo [ Tue May 11, 2010 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
PatGreen wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Quote:
P2V


i lold

i don't get it.

penis to vagina
Author:  NYIntensity [ Tue May 11, 2010 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Montalo wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Quote:
P2V


i lold

i don't get it.

penis to vagina

:clap:
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue May 11, 2010 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
NYIntensity wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Seeing as how 64 is a bigger number than 32 (almost TWICE as big!) i'd say 64 must be better.

All I know is i've got a dual core dell with 64 bit vista, and I can have like...27 porn vids running at once, it's fucking incredible.

You've probably got boatloads of memory. When it comes to Vista, it's a prerequisite for you to even be able to boot.

I wish this computer has more, because it always is running 70% at Vista idle, yes it only has 1 GB of RAM.

Which sucks badly.
Author:  BlueandYellow [ Tue May 11, 2010 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
NYIntensity wrote:
Montalo wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Quote:
P2V


i lold

i don't get it.

penis to vagina

:clap:

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Author:  PatGreen [ Tue May 11, 2010 11:30 pm ]
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i don't get it
Author:  patkane88 [ Tue May 11, 2010 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Seeing as how 64 is a bigger number than 32 (almost TWICE as big!) i'd say 64 must be better.

All I know is i've got a dual core dell with 64 bit vista, and I can have like...27 porn vids running at once, it's fucking incredible.

:drool:

:banana-gotpics: :banana-rock: :banana-linedance: :banana-explosion: :banana-linedance: :banana-angel: :banana-stoner: :banana-skier: :banana-tux: :banana-wrench:
Author:  Sabres2Sabres [ Wed May 12, 2010 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Wait...64 is almost twice as big as 32? I had the impression it is twice as big as 32.
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Wed May 12, 2010 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Sabres2Sabres wrote:
Wait...64 is almost twice as big as 32? I had the impression it is twice as big as 32.

Haha, same here now that you mention it.
Author:  YankeeInRaleigh [ Wed May 12, 2010 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Geek advice? 32 vs 64 bit OS.
Sabres2Sabres wrote:
Wait...64 is almost twice as big as 32? I had the impression it is twice as big as 32.



oh, you must be using the "New Math"...damned kids, with your music!
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