your two clauses are mutually exclusive. these people shouldn't be held responsible because other people look up to them.

you can't hold people responsible for something they didn't sign up for. it's not a federal offense or a violent crime. (not directed at you specifically) if your kid says "dad i want to be just like kobe" then it is your job as a parent to tell him that he's a great athlete but you don't want to be like him as a person. if your job is done right, when the kid is old enough, he'll be able to see that people can be douches but excellent athletes.

i'm not saying that ben roethlisraper is okay, he's still a dirtbag (and a very overrated quarterback). i'm just saying that he isn't responsible for the people that look up to him.

guns don't kill people, people who make stupid decisions with guns do.

Spot on Pat Green. I see it the same way really.

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Well...umm, no one SHOULD be getting in bar fights. It doesn't really have to do with being an athlete or not.

But anyways...people do stupid shit. Not really a big deal in my opinion. Although he'll have to cut that shit out if he ever makes it to the NHL if he wants to go anywhere.

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Hockey Night in Buffalo

That's cool, I'm beginning to like this kid a lot! Stupid hoser probably deserved a busted lip for talking back, Don't talk back to Kassian or he'll bust yo lip sucka!

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"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

Well right, but I don't really want to condemn him for anything before I know the story either. I think any number of things that could have happened that would have made his involvement justifiable. Unfortunately, as tends to be the case with athletes, that is not often the norm.

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You know full well I 100% agree with that statement about guns and all of its permutations, but in this circumstance, you can't take anything for granted (like parents doing the right thing). That's why there are rules of decorum for everyone...with a greater emphasis put on public figures.

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mechaphil

there is nothing being taken for granted. you know that i know a lot of parents suck and don't guide their kids like our parents generation used to. but the overall failure of parenting can't be pushed on athletes or movie stars.

they should act appropriately, just like EVERYONE should, but i don't think that they have any obligation to act any better than anyone else.

I don't give much slack for Kassian being 19 (?) or whatever. Here's the more prevalent issue though... When I was in high school I knew to conduct myself as a respected representative of my football program - as a respectable student athlete with respected coaches. I didn't get into stupid shit like that because I knew I would be letting my coaches, team, and school down. Kassian is older and has more at stake, so he should know better. Not because of the right and wrong of getting in a bar fight, but because of who/what he represents. This will certainly be an issue that the Sabres front office will have to address. They'll have to be concerned about whether Kassian will/can be mature enough to handle himself as a professional...if his talent pans out into a pro contract.

It's not the biggest deal, but it sure isn't a positive.

I want to hear some details on this before I pass judgment

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I think we all are. My altruistic side still wants to believe he was defending a girl's honor.

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mechaphil

fights happen.

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I would love to see our top 2 RW's being Beach and Kassian in 3 years.

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Eh

I could kick all of your asses in a bar fight!

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"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Hockey Night in Buffalo

Did anyone see on TSN that Red Wing's prospect Brendan Smith was charged with disorderly conduct for beating up some guy at a house party.

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Eh

Chris Simon...is that you?!

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Squanto 7/27/2010

Hey think of it this way, if it were Roy or Pominville winning a bar fight Id be damn proud lol

Well, some commenters on the Kassian story at the Windsor Star's site are saying that they witnessed the incident and he did the right thing.

We still don't know the real story, but hell, at least that gives some credence to my thought that he was defending someone most likely.

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mechaphil

Zack Kassian once punched a bear.

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Oh, it's time to get ridiculous.

Zack Kassian's mutton chops once beat up Epic Beard Man so badly, he needed to call da ambalamps for himself.

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mechaphil

The Weapon X program originally planned on using Zack Kassian's mutton chops instead of adamantium. Unfortunately for them the only way to remove Zack Kassian's mutton chops is with a razor made of Zack Kassian's mutton chops.

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