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Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:07 pm ]
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/1 ... tml?hpt=T2

Chinese Villager's Death Sparks National Outrage

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The photograph was unmistakably graphic: a lifeless man under the large tire of a truck -- his eyes shut, mouth half-open with blood streaming out and his head detached from his crushed body.

The circumstances surrounding the death of 53-year-old Qian Yunhui last Saturday in a small town in eastern China, however, almost resemble the plot of filmmaker Akira Kurosawa's classic "Rashomon" -- with differing versions of the event and flip-flopping witnesses.

The government initially said Qian died in an ordinary traffic accident and detained the truck driver.

But as shocking images from the scene in Yueqing city began to appear on a popular Chinese online forum Sunday, some posts suggested he was murdered by local officials for advocating villagers' rights in a land dispute. Word quickly spread online and mainstream Chinese news media picked up the story.

Many people were appalled by the gruesome details described by two eyewitnesses. Qian was held down to the ground by three masked men as a heavy truck slowly drove over his neck, the Southern Daily newspaper quoted one of them as saying, adding that police had detained another witness.

Qian's life story also struck a chord with the public. When the Yueqing government in 2004 approved the construction of a power plant in Qian's village, the farmers were tricked into signing their land away for free, according to a report in the 21st Century Economic Herald newspaper.

Qian, then the village chief, led his fellow villagers in protesting the land grab and demanding proper compensation. He was arrested and sentenced to prison twice, but continued the fight after his release -- even traveling to Beijing to petition the central government, the Herald report said.

Amid rising national outrage over the alleged murder of a local hero, authorities in Wenzhou city in Zhejiang province, which oversees Yueqing, launched a criminal investigation Tuesday -- and drew their conclusions less than 48 hours later.

In a late-night press conference Wednesday, officials reiterated that Qian was a victim of a traffic accident, not a murder. Police assigned blame to the inexperienced trucker driving without a license, the severely overloaded vehicle with faulty brakes, the slippery road on a rainy day -- and even Qian himself for not being careful when crossing the road.

"We thoroughly investigated the life and work as well as social connections of the suspect (driver), and eliminated the possibility of him intentionally killing (Qian)," said Shen Qiang, deputy police chief of Wenzhou. "There were obvious skid marks, drag marks of the body and collision marks on the scene, all of which contradicted the scenario of someone being held down and crushed," he added.

State-run China Central Television later aired interviews of the two eyewitnesses, including a man detained for assaulting police. Contrary to earlier reports quoting them, they both denied seeing Qian's brutal murder. "Several men told me if I said these things, they would help me treat my daughter's illness," Huang Diyan told CCTV.

The police conclusions and CCTV interviews have not satisfied many online, however, especially as state censors quietly erased earlier news reports, personal posts and comments on the topic on the Internet.

With mainstream media's independent reporting on Qian's death coming a screeching halt, grassroots activists continue chasing the case, digging up new information on the land dispute or even traveling to Yueqing to talk to villagers.

Wu Gan, a rights activist, has obtained a lengthy police video that showed the chaotic scene after the truck crushed Qian. He posted it online for the public to view and analyze before heading to the village Thursday evening to offer legal assistance to anyone in need.

"I don't prejudge -- I just want to restore the truth," he told CNN. "The way the authorities dealt with this incident was just not open or fair -- they have lost all credibility."

Wu said the Internet provides ordinary Chinese with an outlet to express their anger over injustice resulting from a storyline common in the country -- poor farmers losing land to corrupt officials working with businesses, and then losing even more in failed attempts to petition to higher authorities.

"This death really shows the bottom line of what is intolerable keeps getting lower," he said.


I'm not posting the picture, but it's out there if you want proof. How can anyone be so cruel?

Author:  Crosscheck [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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This happens every day in China.
The only surprise here is that the news got out.

1/2 of my wife's family was murdered by that government.

Author:  gr8daygo [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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Come on its just "state capitalism" at its finest... isn't this what our commender in chief want for us... I mean he's surrounded himself with communists... i mean "state capitalists".... come on China is where its at... they are the new model to base society on...

sarcasm aside, it is appalling, but it is china, they are still a communist society and while they may seem "softened" over the last few years... they are STILL a COMMUNIST society....

Author:  Squanto [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:26 pm ]
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gr8daygo wrote:
they are STILL a COMMUNIST society....


The fact that they are communist isn't as important as that they're an oppressive government that has little regard for human rights.

Author:  gr8daygo [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:28 pm ]
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Squanto wrote:
gr8daygo wrote:
they are STILL a COMMUNIST society....


The fact that they are communist isn't as important as that they're an oppressive government that has little regard for human rights.


sorry for the confusion... but has there been one non-oppressive communist government....

Author:  Crosscheck [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Squanto wrote:
gr8daygo wrote:
they are STILL a COMMUNIST society....


The fact that they are communist isn't as important as that they're an oppressive government that has little regard for human rights.

Chinese and Soviet style communism can not exist without totalitarian oppression.
The fact that they are communist is very important.

Author:  daz28 [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:34 pm ]
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I see that their lawyers are making leaps and bounds in the cover-up and silencing areas though. The difference between them and us is we keep things quiet with money, and they do it by force. Switch the economic conditions of each country, and wed be doing it just like they do. If we had "one villager fighting for his fellow villager's rights"(which is not even the terminology we'd use), they'd just pay him more until he shut up.

Author:  BlueandYellow [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:53 pm ]
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daz28 wrote:
I see that their lawyers are making leaps and bounds in the cover-up and silencing areas though. The difference between them and us is we keep things quiet with money, and they do it by force. Switch the economic conditions of each country, and wed be doing it just like they do. If we had "one villager fighting for his fellow villager's rights"(which is not even the terminology we'd use), they'd just pay him more until he shut up.


Our government wouldn't kill an activist for protesting.

Author:  Displaced Fan [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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BlueandYellow wrote:
daz28 wrote:
I see that their lawyers are making leaps and bounds in the cover-up and silencing areas though. The difference between them and us is we keep things quiet with money, and they do it by force. Switch the economic conditions of each country, and wed be doing it just like they do. If we had "one villager fighting for his fellow villager's rights"(which is not even the terminology we'd use), they'd just pay him more until he shut up.


Our government wouldn't kill an activist for protesting.

They have before. Just saying.

Author:  puckovertheglass [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:11 pm ]
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This is disgusting.

And for the record, Crosscheck, I'm extremely sorry about your wife's family. That's horrible.

Author:  Crosscheck [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:24 pm ]
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Displaced Fan wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Our government wouldn't kill an activist for protesting.

They have before. Just saying.

Not on a daily basis and not as policy.

Not even in the same ballpark.

Hell, Tiananmen Square saw 400-3000 students murdered depending on who you listen to.

Author:  Displaced Fan [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:27 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote:
Displaced Fan wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Our government wouldn't kill an activist for protesting.

They have before. Just saying.

Not on a daily basis and not as policy.

Not even in the same ballpark.

Hell, Tiananmen Square saw 400-3000 students murdered depending on who you listen to.


I never said that. I wasn't comparing at all, just saying that the US doesn't have a clean record when it comes to protesting and killing. I'm well aware of the differences.

Author:  AudSabres [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:29 pm ]
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This is damn well horrible. :(

Author:  X-pensfan [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:37 pm ]
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This news makes me want to...
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THE ENTIRE CHINESE GOVERNMENT!!!

I HOPE THEY START A CIVIL WAR AND KILL ALL OF THOSE CURRPT JAGOFFS!!

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