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I'm guessing this was a cultural conflict as well. The woman's name leads me to believe there's about a 99.8% chance she's black. By the time they got well into Oregon, I'm guessing the vast majority of the other people on the train were white. In this country, blacks often speak more loudly than whites, to make a generalization. So like Jay said, it's possible she didn't realize she was being that loud.

That doesn't explain why she didn't pay attention to the signs however. And I certainly would have applauded having her ejection if I was on the train in the quiet car.

I think I'm turning into one of those cranky old timers that always says "Things were so much better back in my days...". I fucking hate cell phones. They're killing the manners of this country.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Thu May 19, 2011 12:29 pm ]
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookou ... -by-police A woman who was escorted off an Amtrak train by police last weekend after she allegedly refused to stop talking loudly on her cell-phone has the Internet cheering her fate. Civilians and quiet-car champions are supporting her ejection for violating policy at high volume during the 16-hour journey. It doesn't help her cause that she became belligerent when confronted about it by one of her fellow passengers. KOMO News reports that Lakeysha Beard says she felt "disrespected" by the incident, though passengers said it was Beard who was being rude by refusing to stop yapping while sitting in one of the train's designated quiet cars. She had not stopped talking since the train pulled out of Oakland, California, 16 hours before it reached Salem, Oregon, when a passenger confronted her about the talking. That's when Beard got "aggressive," KATU reports, and conductors stopped the train so that police could remove her and charge her with disorderly conduct. Amtrak created quiet cars in 2001 when a group of passengers who rode the Philadelphia to D.C. route every morning asked if they could reserve a car where cell-phone loudmouths weren't welcome. Ever since, the rare havens of quiet have become a battlefield between silence-loving rule-followers and rebellious cell-phone addicts. Gawker suggested, not without a dose of sincerity, that the cops who removed Beard from the train were heroes, and that Beard should be charged with "unspeakable crimes against humanity and sentenced to life on some distant planet where there are no reception bars, ever." According to a very scientific reader poll at The Huffington Post, 77 percent of people were happy the woman was hauled off the train. And CNN personality Anderson Cooper blasted the woman on his "ridiculist" last night, asking "What could someone possibly talk about for 16 hours?" He even compared being stuck on the train with a person who would do such a thing to the "fifth circle of hell." The Internet is full of tales of innocent people's quiet-car journeys being marred by loud passengers who ignore the rules. An Israeli blogger with a PhD in conflict resolution wrote a lengthy post about the best way to get a fellow passenger to shut up without starting World War III. "Always assume the transgressor is ignorant, not arrogant. This way you won't feel wronged and can communicate your message with less contempt and hostility," he suggests. Meanwhile writer Christopher Buckley, a self-described quiet car Nazi, wonders why there would be any confusion as to the correct behavior in that part of the train: "The Quiet Car does not hide its light under a bushel. Prominent and explicit signs hang from the ceiling at five-foot intervals. They declare, unequivocally, that NO CELL PHONES ARE PERMITTED and that conversation must be kept to a minimum and in hushed tones."

Author:	SABRESAllTheWay [ Thu May 19, 2011 12:38 pm ]
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People who are completely ignorant of the rules deserve nothing less.

Author:	BlueandYellow [ Thu May 19, 2011 3:21 pm ]
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She big.

Author:	jvaccaro6 [ Thu May 19, 2011 3:39 pm ]
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In all fairness, some people are just naturally loud, for me example. Those of you who have met me, know I have a loud, outgoing, and sometimes a bit over the top personality. I don't realize how loud I'm being about 85% of the time, my voice projects, and when I get going, I don't have volume control (or a censor for that matter)

Author:	backthatSASSup [ Thu May 19, 2011 3:59 pm ]
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Why the hell did people wait 16 hours to say something? I probably would have bitched after 16 minutes.

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Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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maybe she was drunk? i yell when im drunk. and about 92% of my vocabulary is "fuck."

Author:	jvaccaro6 [ Thu May 19, 2011 4:49 pm ]
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backthatSASSup wrote: Why the hell did people wait 16 hours to say something? I probably would have bitched after 16 minutes. The word probably can be stricken from that statement...you would have

Author:	fly as hale [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:04 pm ]
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She was on the phone for 16 hours? What the hell... I can't stand it when I'm at work and a customer comes up to me yapping on their cell phone and they expect me to give them my undivided attention. So rude.

Author:	mechaphil [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:13 pm ]
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Who you finna try

Author:	Stuuuuuuu [ Thu May 19, 2011 5:44 pm ]
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I'm guessing this was a cultural conflict as well. The woman's name leads me to believe there's about a 99.8% chance she's black. By the time they got well into Oregon, I'm guessing the vast majority of the other people on the train were white. In this country, blacks often speak more loudly than whites, to make a generalization. So like Jay said, it's possible she didn't realize she was being that loud. That doesn't explain why she didn't pay attention to the signs however. And I certainly would have applauded having her ejection if I was on the train in the quiet car. I think I'm turning into one of those cranky old timers that always says "Things were so much better back in my days...". I fucking hate cell phones. They're killing the manners of this country.

Author:	backthatSASSup [ Thu May 19, 2011 7:38 pm ]
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Stuuuuuuu wrote: I'm guessing this was a cultural conflict as well. The woman's name leads me to believe there's about a 99.8% chance she's black. By the time they got well into Oregon, I'm guessing the vast majority of the other people on the train were white. In this country, blacks often speak more loudly than whites, to make a generalization. So like Jay said, it's possible she didn't realize she was being that loud. That doesn't explain why she didn't pay attention to the signs however. And I certainly would have applauded having her ejection if I was on the train in the quiet car. I think I'm turning into one of those cranky old timers that always says "Things were so much better back in my days...". I fucking hate cell phones. They're killing the manners of this country. She's a big black woman. Someone took a video of her getting off the train.

Author:	Stuuuuuuu [ Fri May 20, 2011 11:43 am ]
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Ouch, looks like I killed this thread with the mention of race. Sorry CV.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Fri May 20, 2011 12:47 pm ]
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fly as hale wrote: She was on the phone for 16 hours? What the hell... I can't stand it when I'm at work and a customer comes up to me yapping on their cell phone and they expect me to give them my undivided attention. So rude. this used to happen to me all the the time. they would make hand gestures like i knew what they were saying. if i was super annoyed, if give them "the best seats available" that were typically in shit tastic areas. if i was in a good mood, id just wait till they were done. man, i miss fucking with people.

Author:	BlueandYellow [ Fri May 20, 2011 3:31 pm ]
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Stuuuuuuu wrote: Ouch, looks like I killed this thread with the mention of race. Sorry CV. It happens. Just go with it.

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Author:	acrossthelines [ Sat May 21, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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I've been riding Amtrak trains every four months or so for a good three years and will be riding one across the country in August and still didn't know that there are quiet cars. Weeeeellllll then. I always ride overnight, though, so they're usually quiet, anyway.