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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/11/1 ... index.html Quote: (CNN) -- NASA said Friday it had discovered water on the moon, opening "a new chapter" that could allow for the development of a lunar space station. The discovery is based on preliminary data collected when the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, intentionally crashed October 9 into the permanently shadowed region of Cabeus crater near the moon's south pole. After the satellite made impact, a rocket flew through the debris cloud, measuring the amount of water present. "The discovery opens a new chapter in our understanding of the moon," the space agency said in a written statement shortly after a news conference began at its Ames Research Center at Moffett Field near San Francisco. Anthony Colaprete announced the discovery at a noon news conference -- "Indeed, yes, we found water." Fucking sweet. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
I don't see them quantify the amount though. What's "significant"? Enough to support human life? |
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Crosscheck wrote: I don't see them quantify the amount though. What's "significant"? Enough to support human life? It was during the interview on CNN that they said significant. Supposedly, it's enough to sustain human life. |
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| Author: | icehound [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
I might be tempted to believe that significant would indicate: sufficient to sustain ANY life - bacterial/microbial. That would be a tremendous find, either way. |
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
I'm more curious about what else they found, which they haven't yet revealed. |
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| Author: | slesh [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Ok boys, start sending up the topsoil, the Mexican government will start sending up the workers for the farms (with NASA greencards of course), lets get an atmosphere started on the moon. |
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| Author: | icehound [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
PuckSniperPensel wrote: I'm more curious about what else they found, which they haven't yet revealed. ...a copy of the Zapruder film, a couple of Iron Butterfly eight-tracks, a Glo in the Dark Frisbee, and an old "Millionaire Burger" wrapper... |
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| Author: | Sabres2Sabres [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Just hit my inbox: Quote: RELEASE: 09-265 NASA'S LCROSS IMPACTS CONFIRM WATER IN LUNAR CRATER MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. -- Preliminary data from NASA's Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, indicates the mission successfully uncovered water in a permanently shadowed lunar crater. The discovery opens a new chapter in our understanding of the moon. The LCROSS spacecraft and a companion rocket stage made twin impacts in the Cabeus crater Oct. 9 that created a plume of material from the bottom of a crater that has not seen sunlight in billions of years. The plume traveled at a high angle beyond the rim of Cabeus and into sunlight, while an additional curtain of debris was ejected more laterally. "We're unlocking the mysteries of our nearest neighbor and, by extension, the solar system," said Michael Wargo, chief lunar scientist at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "The moon harbors many secrets, and LCROSS has added a new layer to our understanding." Scientists long have speculated about the source of significant quantities of hydrogen that have been observed at the lunar poles. The LCROSS findings are shedding new light on the question with the discovery of water, which could be more widespread and in greater quantity than previously suspected. If the water that was formed or deposited is billions of years old, these polar cold traps could hold a key to the history and evolution of the solar system, much as an ice core sample taken on Earth reveals ancient data. In addition, water and other compounds represent potential resources that could sustain future lunar exploration. Since the impacts, the LCROSS science team has been analyzing the huge amount of data the spacecraft collected. The team concentrated on data from the satellite's spectrometers, which provide the most definitive information about the presence of water. A spectrometer helps identify the composition of materials by examining light they emit or absorb. "We are ecstatic," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS project scientist and principal investigator at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "Multiple lines of evidence show water was present in both the high angle vapor plume and the ejecta curtain created by the LCROSS Centaur impact. The concentration and distribution of water and other substances requires further analysis, but it is safe to say Cabeus holds water." The team took the known near-infrared spectral signatures of water and other materials and compared them to the impact spectra the LCROSS near infrared spectrometer collected. "We were able to match the spectra from LCROSS data only when we inserted the spectra for water," Colaprete said. "No other reasonable combination of other compounds that we tried matched the observations. The possibility of contamination from the Centaur also was ruled out." Additional confirmation came from an emission in the ultraviolet spectrum that was attributed to hydroxyl, one product from the break-up of water by sunlight. When atoms and molecules are excited, they release energy at specific wavelengths that can be detected by the spectrometers. A similar process is used in neon signs. When electrified, a specific gas will produce a distinct color. Just after impact, the LCROSS ultraviolet visible spectrometer detected hydroxyl signatures that are consistent with a water vapor cloud in sunlight. Data from the other LCROSS instruments are being analyzed for additional clues about the state and distribution of the material at the impact site. The LCROSS science team and colleagues are poring over the data to understand the entire impact event, from flash to crater. The goal is to understand the distribution of all materials within the soil at the impact site. "The full understanding of the LCROSS data may take some time. The data is that rich," Colaprete said. "Along with the water in Cabeus, there are hints of other intriguing substances. The permanently shadowed regions of the moon are truly cold traps, collecting and preserving material over billions of years." LCROSS was launched June 18 from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida as a companion mission to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO. Moving at a speed of more than 1.5 miles per second, the spent upper stage of its launch vehicle hit the lunar surface shortly after 4:31 a.m. PDT Oct. 9, creating an impact that instruments aboard LCROSS observed for approximately four minutes. LCROSS then impacted the surface at approximately 4:36 a.m. LRO observed the impact and continues to pass over the site to give the LCROSS team additional insight into the mechanics of the impact and its resulting craters. The LCROSS science team is working closely with scientists from LRO and other observatories that viewed the impact to analyze and understand the full scope of the LCROSS data. For information about LCROSS, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/lcross I'm hearing 100 kg of water in the plume, but can't find anything official to confirm. Also possibly some CH4 in the plume. |
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Methane, eh? The moon; earth's newest energy source. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Aww a press release from my old neighborhood. Moffett field is awesome The blue cube and those massive blimp hangers. |
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| Author: | Rutledge222 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
This is unrelated to the moon but it does have to do with Water "out there". haha Um I think it was Titan, one of the moons of Saturn which is covered in Ice. Well anyways, the ice isnt all that thick they claim and that there is bacterial life in the water that is unfrozen under the ice. Wow I dont think that made much sense, but Ill look for it. EDIT: This is the video I think I watched haha, um let me clarify unlike what I said before, there could be POTENTIAL life... haha and the liquid is Liquid Methane. There was more to this video, cuz I watched the actual episode on the History Channel, but this gives a rough idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKV2W25YICg |
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| Author: | psychemedisabrefan [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575012,00.html here's another story on it. |
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| Author: | fly as hale [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Movin' to the moon, bitchessss. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
fly as hale wrote: Movin' to the moon, bitchessss. I'm not going anywhere until they can prove it also can support barley and hops |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Until they find bacon, I'm uninterested. :p |
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| Author: | acrossthelines [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
brb goin to the moon like Nsync |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Let's get TERRAFORMING |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Bettman is going to expand into the Moon now. |
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| Author: | icehound [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: Bettman is going to expand into the Moon now. PUHHHH-Leeeeeeez!!!! Don't give him any bright ideas. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Nasa Discovers 'Significant' Water on the Moon |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: Bettman is going to expand into the Moon now. It would be ideal...you could freeze a nice sheet of ice on the moon, but you'd have to be on the dark side to do that so even Vs. wouldn't be able to get us HD coverage |
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