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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:43 am 
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International Gymnastics Officials Say China Used Underage Girls in 2000 Olympics

VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- China should be stripped of its bronze medal from the 2000 Olympics because one member of the squad has been found to be underage, international gymnastics officials said Friday.

Dong Fangxiao was 14 during the Sydney Games, according to FIG, the international gymnastics federation. Gymnasts must be 16 during the Olympic year to compete.

Another gymnast on the 2000 squad, Yang Yun, also was suspected of being underage after she mentioned on a television interview that she was 14 in Sydney. But all of her official documentation indicated she was 16 in Sydney.

The FIG has "canceled" all of Dong's results from Sydney, and forwarded the results of its investigation to the International Olympic Committee. Because the case involves the Olympics, it is up to the IOC to decide if China should lose any medals.

The IOC has said previously it would take "necessary measures" if any gymnasts were found to be underage. The U.S. team was fourth in that event at the Sydney Games.

Questions about the eligibility of Dong and Yang for Sydney arose during the FIG's investigation into the eligibility of members of China's team that won the gold medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. The 2008 gymnasts were eventually cleared, but the FIG said it wasn't satisfied with "the explanations and evidence provided to date" for Dong and Yang.

"We can confirm that we have received the ruling from the FIG in the case concerning Dong Fangxiao and Yang Yun, and we take due note of their decision," IOC spokesman Mark Adams said. "Clearly, we need to take time to consider the findings before the Executive Board can consider the matter. We would like to thank the FIG for their work and we would refer further inquiries to them."

The FIG also wiped out Dong's results from the 1999 world championships, and it is making China pay the costs of the 16-month investigation "for not having adequately controlled the birth dates of the gymnasts." The FIG also issued a warning to Yang, who will be allowed to keep her bronze medal on the uneven bars.

Dong's accreditation information for the Beijing Olympics, where she worked as a national technical official, listed her birthday as Jan. 23, 1986. That would have made her 14 in Sydney -- too young to compete. Her birth date in the FIG database had been listed as Jan. 20, 1983.

Dong's blog also says she was born in the Year of the Ox in the Chinese zodiac, which dated from Feb. 20, 1985, to Feb. 8, 1986. Dong has not denied that, but she refused to answer any questions about her age, telling The Associated Press, "I've left the gymnastics team."

Yang said in a June 2007 interview that aired on state broadcaster China Central Television that she was 14 in Sydney. She later told the AP that she had misspoken, declining further comment.

The FIG's three-person disciplinary commission spent 16 months investigating the cases of Dong and Yang. Besides providing documentation, Dong and Yang, along with their parents and two Chinese gymnastics officials, met with the commission for two days in December in Lausanne, Switzerland.

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sorry the whole title did not fit in the title space for new forums.

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Meh.......

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i was kind of hoping it would be the Bejing games, but i'm quite sure china has the truth hidden in the forbidden temple surrounded by armed guards told to shoot on site.

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The Chinese girls looked way underage in Bejing, but whatever.

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Haven't former members of China's gymnastics team already admitted to being underage when they competed? I thought it was blatantly obvious that some of the girls on China's 2008 team were underage.

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2008 definitely had underagers for the Chinese team. no way some of those girls were that old. my 9 year old cousin looks older than some of them did. Wish the Olympic committee would investigate these things earlier..


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so do younger girls have advantages in gymnastics? Why does china have such a problem with them?

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fly as hale wrote:
Haven't former members of China's gymnastics team already admitted to being underage when they competed? I thought it was blatantly obvious that some of the girls on China's 2008 team were underage.


They were obviously underage.

However, it's tough to prove when China provided all kinds of 'official documentation' to prove their age, even when that official documentation contradicted previous official documentation.

Yes, younger girls have some advantages in some events, mostly because of their lower weight.


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The younger the girl, the more flexible then older women, that is a huge reason you hardly see anyone over the age of 20 compete in gymnastics during the Olympics.

Nastia Luikin will most likely never compete at a national or world level again, and you might see Shawn Johnson at the next Olympics.

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Made in China.

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Van_Da_Man wrote:
so do younger girls have advantages in gymnastics? Why does china have such a problem with them?


they're incredibly tiny and short, so they can move around easier, and therefore can be more flexible. There's a lot of advantages when you're young with gymnastics, which is why you hardly see people over the age of 20 competing at high levels.


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motzie12ak wrote:
Van_Da_Man wrote:
so do younger girls have advantages in gymnastics? Why does china have such a problem with them?


they're incredibly tiny and short, so they can move around easier, and therefore can be more flexible. There's a lot of advantages when you're young with gymnastics, which is why you hardly see people over the age of 20 competing at high levels.

You said what I said basically two posts above yours. :lol:

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haha sorry bout that. i just saw van da man's post and immediately replied to it. whoops! but hey, great minds think alike ;)


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motzie12ak wrote:
haha sorry bout that. i just saw van da man's post and immediately replied to it. whoops! but hey, great minds think alike ;)

Yup

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So I guess we have to wait until 2018 for the '08 gymnastic team to get busted.

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Los9090 wrote:
So I guess we have to wait until 2018 for the '08 gymnastic team to get busted.


lol Yes. I remember they did scientific analyses on their faces and how big their ears and teeth were in comparison to their heads and how big their heads were compared to the rest of their bodies... Those things show people's real ages regardless of how old they look. They were like, "Well, this girl's no older than twelve. And this one (the one that had baby teeth missing, remember her?) has a head the size of an 8-year-old." There was also video footage of the youngest-looking one competing earlier that year as a 14-year-old. OK, then, China.

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Yes, younger girls have some advantages in some events, mostly because of their lower weight.

They also have a mental edge...they're just kids, they don't realize the huge pressure they're under.

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So could this just be another example of "sky is blue" reporting?

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fly as hale wrote:
Squanto wrote:
Yes, younger girls have some advantages in some events, mostly because of their lower weight.

They also have a mental edge...they're just kids, they don't realize the huge pressure they're under.



Very very true, and also, China start training their gymnasts at such a young age so they can't really learn to fear anything. Think of all the crazy things little kids will do sometimes. They have no fear of the moves they're doing.


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