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CriminallyVu1gar
 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:34 am 
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as far as the diving, its sorta true. a player hits the ground, and the writhe in pain. and its all... COME ON, YOU ARE FINE! GET UP! both teams were doing that.


That is why I can't watch this sport

You ever been kicked in the chest with soccer cleats? Or had your foot stepped on and roll your ankle? With the exception of true divers (Team ITA, for example), a lot of the shit they're rolling around because of hurts like a bitch.


My friend had his face stepped on by metal cleats during a football game and spent zero time rolling around on the ground.

Gah, once a soccer hater, always a soccer hater. All of ya.


Or having to go to the hospital for having my ankle stepped on by metal cleats during a football game, and not even realizing I was hurt until the game was over.

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:34 am 
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a rolled ankle is worse then a break. rolled ankles never repair. it just stops hurting.

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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A Ghanian rolled his ankle yesterday in a tangle with an American player. Neither got carded that I can think of (just a tangle) but he never came back. Got subbed right out.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:40 am 
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did anyone just see england score again and not get the credit for it? damnnnnn


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:40 am 
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England just got screwed out of a goal.


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:41 am 
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You ever been kicked in the chest with soccer cleats? Or had your foot stepped on and roll your ankle? With the exception of true divers (Team ITA, for example), a lot of the shit they're rolling around because of hurts like a bitch.


yeah, i played for 12 years and a year in college. most of that does not hurt. Italy, germany, france, and the ivory coast are the biggest divers.


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mechaphil
 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:15 am 
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Well, Pat, you're also a rugby-playing wilderness-loving certified badass :D

And among those listed, good GOD is Italy the worst.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:43 am 
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you should try it though, its very interesting.


I have tried many, many times but I can't sit and watch two teams get maybe 1 good chance in 90+ mins to score and dive all over the place, I'll stick to baseball


It's hilarious to me that you think soccer is too boring to watch, then you say that you'll watch baseball instead.

And Germany fucking handed it to England. They're up 4-1 eighty-seven minutes into the game

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:48 am 
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After that disallowed goal, ENG just laid down and took it

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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you should try it though, its very interesting.


I have tried many, many times but I can't sit and watch two teams get maybe 1 good chance in 90+ mins to score and dive all over the place, I'll stick to baseball


It's hilarious to me that you think soccer is too boring to watch, then you say that you'll watch baseball instead.



Ha, seriously, I cannot imagine a more boring 'sport' to watch, besides perhaps Golf, which I do not consider a sport. But hey, it's not like we're going to go into the baseball thread and say "How can you watch this boring crap?" Because why the fuck would we do that, pat?


Rud, that pounding of England was soooo satisfying, I just LOVE seeing them lose. And also...technically the US did better at this world cup than England, so basically we can say that since the last international measurement, the US was shown to have better futbol than england :)


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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Definitely rooting for Germany at this point.

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Mexico got boned by the refs today too. Argentina's 1st goal was about 4 yards offsides, not even close.


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:05 pm 
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Mexico got boned by the refs today too. Argentina's 1st goal was about 4 yards offsides, not even close.

And I'm sure that threw them off. But Argentina looks nasty now

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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FIFA, THIS is diving
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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:25 pm 
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I bask in the afterglow of Germany pounding England, but in all fairness that no-goal should be the driving force behind FIFA finally agreeing to some extent of video replay.


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
I bask in the afterglow of Germany pounding England, but in all fairness that no-goal should be the driving force behind FIFA finally agreeing to some extent of video replay.

Which they won't because they're stuuuuupiiiid. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:52 pm 
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its hard to do for FIFA, because of the nonstop nature of the game

uinlike amer football, baseball, and hockey which have somewhat frequent stoppages

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:00 am 
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I know it's difficult, but soccer is looking like a whole bunch of...

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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
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I don't think it's much intrusion on the pace of the game to review goal/no-goal situations. If the goal was awarded there is a stoppage anyway. If a goal isn't awarded a review would/should take 1-2 minutes. The rate at which replays are shown during the broadcast is remarkable. A goal review judge would have the replays within seconds and be able to communicate with the referee immediately after the review. Play could continue unless the no-goal call is reversed. Stop play and reset the ball at midfield.

In either scenario just start the clock over from the time of the goal/no-goal, or just add on another minute or two to extra time. The impact of blowing a goal call is much greater than interrupting the pace or the clock.


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 Post subject: Re: World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:28 am 
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
I don't think it's much intrusion on the pace of the game to review goal/no-goal situations. If the goal was awarded there is a stoppage anyway. If a goal isn't awarded a review would/should take 1-2 minutes. The rate at which replays are shown during the broadcast is remarkable. A goal review judge would have the replays within seconds and be able to communicate with the referee immediately after the review. Play could continue unless the no-goal call is reversed. Stop play and reset the ball at midfield.

In either scenario just start the clock over from the time of the goal/no-goal, or just add on another minute or two to extra time. The impact of blowing a goal call is much greater than interrupting the pace or the clock.


Agreed. Plus, how many of these blown calls have been in the "really fucking obvious" realm within ten seconds of looking at a replay? Problem is most refs feel like they need to take a minute or more to look like a replay to give the impression that they're really thinking hard about it or something.

People get so romanticized about sports. Baseball is the absolute worst. People get this notion of how the game "should be" in their heads and are so resistant to change things as technology improves.



Like the Jim Joyce call, or any close play at a base in baseball. It's not like baseball isn't absolutely plodding anyways. We can't have say a booth official looking at every base replay and turning on a light or something if the call is blatantly wrong (close plays always stand as called)? Really? We're willing to be wrong in order to preserve some imagined "integrity of the game?" Really?

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