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Galarraga will likely move on with his major league career with the stinging Harvey Haddix-type knowledge that only one of the worst blown calls in baseball history prevented him from becoming the 21st pitcher to throw a perfect game — and, even more incredibly — the third perfecto this season and second in four nights.

DETROIT (AP) — Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga has been given a 2010 Corvette convertible by General Motors for his near-perfect game that was wiped out by an umpire’s blown call.

The automaker surprised the right-hander before the start of Thursday’s home game against the Cleveland Indians.

Galarraga retired 26 straight Indians’ batters in Wednesday night’s 3-0 win. His bid for a perfect game ended when the 27th batter bounced to first baseman Miguel Cabrera.

Video replays show Cabrera’s toss to Galarraga at first beat Jason Donald, but umpire Jim Joyce ruled the runner safe.

Joyce later admitted he made the wrong call.

It's beside the point, but the 1st baseman (Cabrera I think) should've held the bag and let the 2nd baseman field the ball.

1996 was the last season I watched any significant amount of baseball.

Your New York Yankees, killing baseball since the Ruth era. Thanks for transforming baseball players into a bunch of fat boozing womanizing home-run crazy assholes that aren't fit to be called athletes anymore. I can't wait until your league folds.

CriminallyVu1gar wrote:

...what? where did that come from?

Wozniak wrote:

CriminallyVu1gar wrote:

...what? where did that come from?

Ruth popularized the home run, ruining baseball

Author:	Wozniak [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:54 am ]
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb,245292 Quote: Galarraga will likely move on with his major league career with the stinging Harvey Haddix-type knowledge that only one of the worst blown calls in baseball history prevented him from becoming the 21st pitcher to throw a perfect game — and, even more incredibly — the third perfecto this season and second in four nights. long story short, umpire blew a call that cost a pitcher a perfect game. the comments people are leaving are actually getting to me more then what actually happened (of which has little effect on me). people wishing for the umpire to die and saying that umpires are ruining the game and all that other shit is moronic and unfortunately expected from people when something like this happens. the thing that, surprisingly, is bothering me is people saying that baseball should reverse the call and give the guy the perfect game. If i was the pitcher, i would tell the league that i dont want it that way. the current status of baseball is that they cant review the call and that the umpires call is, more or less, final. while it might be the right thing to do, i think it would cheapen it. the worst part is people saying that in situations like this, where a perfect game is on the line, that the rules should be shifted towards the pitcher to make sure he gets it. this is straight up bull shit. regardless of what is going on in a game (whether its 0-0 with duel perfect games, or 10-2 blow out) the rules shouldnt be expected to change. a tie goes to the runner reguardless of how well a pitcher is pitching. i mean fuck, would want a ref to not call a penalty shot because a goalie has a shut out going? its ridiculous and insulting to the game, the fans, and everyone involved. back to what actually happened. was it horrible, of course. but the umpire manned up and admitted that he was wrong. there really isnt much else that can be asked for from him. he is human and mistakes are made. the guy was out by less then half a step. now while in baseball is long, in reality (if you look at the picture) is all of 8 inches.

Author:	mechaphil [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:03 am ]
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They were talking about it in the baseball thread.

Author:	Wozniak [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:05 am ]
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o...

Author:	mechaphil [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:10 am ]
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Not as in-depth as that, though.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:29 am ]
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The umpire blew it plain and simple. He needs to be permanently removed from baseball, that's absolutely inexcusable. No one in their right fucking mind would make that call in little league let alone as a professional umpire. Umpires are trained to call close plays as outs unless you're 200% certain the runner beat the throw, and there's no way in hell Joyce was that sure. In that situation (a close play, not the perfect game) you always make a fucking out call. When in doubt, call him out. Absolutely horrible.

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Author:	Squanto [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:18 pm ]
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I was less enraged about it after the ump owned up to it right away and went to apologize. That takes a LOT of guts. He was obviously distraught about it, and I feel bad for everyone involved in it. I won't have any problem if they reverse the call and give him the perfect game. There's precedent; a whack of no hitters were taken off the books years ago for various reasons. It's within the power of Bud to do something about this if he wants to.

Author:	fly as hale [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:26 pm ]
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Mike was the first person I thought of when I heard about it.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:29 pm ]
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they CAN NOT change that call. no. whats next, are they going to replay the 1996 alcs because that wretched shit stole a flyball out from the orioles and the yankees went on to win the series? joyce thought he was safe. he cant watch the play multiple times, slowed down, and from multiple angles. he sees it real time. joyce is one of the best umps in baseball, and he admitted his mistake, even going into the tigers clubhouse and apologizing profusely. its over, its done with, and it was a bad call. i was much more upset about griffey retiring.

Author:	Ryan911T [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:49 pm ]
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Looks like GM jumped on this for some good PR. http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010 ... 679635.txt Quote: DETROIT (AP) — Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga has been given a 2010 Corvette convertible by General Motors for his near-perfect game that was wiped out by an umpire’s blown call. The automaker surprised the right-hander before the start of Thursday’s home game against the Cleveland Indians. Galarraga retired 26 straight Indians’ batters in Wednesday night’s 3-0 win. His bid for a perfect game ended when the 27th batter bounced to first baseman Miguel Cabrera. Video replays show Cabrera’s toss to Galarraga at first beat Jason Donald, but umpire Jim Joyce ruled the runner safe. Joyce later admitted he made the wrong call.

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:20 pm ]
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It's beside the point, but the 1st baseman (Cabrera I think) should've held the bag and let the 2nd baseman field the ball. The 2nd baseman would've easily made the play, and it would've been a much easier call. This is one scenario where I wouldn't mind if Selig reversed the call. It was the last out and the next batter made the "final" out. Nothing too complicated happened that couldn't be erased from the books. Irony, that "wretched shit" will from this point forward be properly addressed as "True Blue Pinstripes Hometown Hero Jeffrey Maier". You will pay due respect to those who have earned it.

Author:	Squanto [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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It's being reported now that MLB is not going to reverse the mistake. I think that was the wrong choice. Official scores can change their interpretation of a play the next day if they so choose. MLB changed the rules on what defined a no hitter some years ago and took them away from a good number of pitchers. Changing this call would not be objected to by ANYONE since it was so obvious a mistake, and would not change the outcome of the contest.

Author:	PatGreen [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:02 pm ]
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Sabresfansince1980 wrote: It's beside the point, but the 1st baseman (Cabrera I think) should've held the bag and let the 2nd baseman field the ball. no. the corners get what they can. 1st and 3rd are supposed to grab whatever's in their reach.

Author:	Wozniak [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:32 pm ]
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote: 1996 was the last season I watched any significant amount of baseball. Your New York Yankees, killing baseball since the Ruth era. Thanks for transforming baseball players into a bunch of fat boozing womanizing home-run crazy assholes that aren't fit to be called athletes anymore. I can't wait until your league folds. ...what? where did that come from?

Author:	Wozniak [ Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:52 pm ]
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote: Wozniak wrote: CriminallyVu1gar wrote: 1996 was the last season I watched any significant amount of baseball. Your New York Yankees, killing baseball since the Ruth era. Thanks for transforming baseball players into a bunch of fat boozing womanizing home-run crazy assholes that aren't fit to be called athletes anymore. I can't wait until your league folds. ...what? where did that come from? Ruth popularized the home run, ruining baseball baseball got ruined pretty quickly then.

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Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:29 am ]
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In the short term it was good, because it brought a lot of fans to the game, but in the long term, the game has suffered, giving way to the NFL and soon the NBA and NHL. It's produced a class of hitter that cannot be called an athlete by any stretch of the imagination (the DH hasn't helped either), and ruined a lot of what makes baseball a great strategic game. It has weakened the impact defense has on the game, especially in the American League, so much so that many teams don't give it much thought when drafting players.