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Meh.

I respect the fact that a Super Bowl winning QB with a team of lawyers probably has enough money to convince the alleged victim not to press charges and drop the case, which is what happened.

Maybe Pittsburgh residents feel that winning another championship somehow redeems him from sexual assault and general ass-hattery, but good for them. I feel like saying a championship makes it all better is a shallow way to see it.

did he try to be the next ghost rider again?

The 'what happened' was in reference to the victim dropping the case, which is true.

If you have sex with anyone that is drunk and you are not, regardless i they consented that is still considered rape because they were inebriated and didn't have a conscious choice in the matter.

i dont think so. its not morally right, but i dont think its illegal.

If you have sex with anyone that is drunk and you are not, regardless i they consented that is still considered rape because they were inebriated and didn't have a conscious choice in the matter.

It's not like first degree rape, but I think it's like statutory rape or something. Basically, just don't do it.

ironyisadeadscene wrote:

i dont think so. its not morally right, but i dont think its illegal.

It's a blurred line between "morally right" and rape in a situation like that.

ive had sex with drunk girls while sober.

but i was in long term relationships with both of em. so its ok.

I'm assuming Ben told the commish(or someone leaked it)the truth, and that's why he got a 6 game suspension. Under NO circumstances would I stand for a suspension because I got laid. I also wouldn't apologize or regret the behavior. If he were completely innocent, then Travis Henry and McGahee would have both been perpetually suspended. If you think Ben is completely innocent, you're fooling yourself. To the semi-educated laymen on the street, he's guilty as sin.

I saw a blurb of his interview on SportsCenter and he sounded so FAKE. "yeah, I want to win this for the fans as a token of appreciation" or whatever. Basically saying, "SORRY! I Fucked up!! I won the Super Bowl!! All is forgiven!!!"

Author:	X-pensfan [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm ]
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/21/steelers.roethlisberger.redemption/index.html?hpt=C1 I'm posting this just to inform some of you who may care enough about your own opinions to have them based off of actual information. My personal opinion is that I don't like the guy, but I respect the legal system and I recognize mans desire to bang hot college chicks as nothing more than fun but only if consensual.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:20 pm ]
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did he try to be the next ghost rider again?

Author:	gr8daygo [ Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:26 pm ]
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Author:	Squanto [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:08 am ]
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Meh. I respect the fact that a Super Bowl winning QB with a team of lawyers probably has enough money to convince the alleged victim not to press charges and drop the case, which is what happened. Maybe Pittsburgh residents feel that winning another championship somehow redeems him from sexual assault and general ass-hattery, but good for them. I feel like saying a championship makes it all better is a shallow way to see it.

Author:	X-pensfan [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:39 am ]
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Squanto wrote: Meh. I respect the fact that a Super Bowl winning QB with a team of lawyers probably has enough money to convince the alleged victim not to press charges and drop the case, which is what happened. Maybe Pittsburgh residents feel that winning another championship somehow redeems him from sexual assault and general ass-hattery, but good for them. I feel like saying a championship makes it all better is a shallow way to see it. Oh is that "what happened". I guess you were replacing the urinal cakes at the time.

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Author:	Squanto [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:53 am ]
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The 'what happened' was in reference to the victim dropping the case, which is true.

Author:	CriminallyVu1gar [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:58 pm ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote: did he try to be the next ghost rider again? hahaha, if only

Author:	X-pensfan [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:54 pm ]
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Squanto wrote: The 'what happened' was in reference to the victim dropping the case, which is true. She dropped the case because she/they had no case. She followed him around all night wearing a "Down to Fuck" t-shirt, no evidence of any bodily harm at all, told two different stories to the authorities, no screams of rape, no signs of struggle, no gizz, nothing. Just some jerk water lawyer trying to make a name for himself and a unscrupulous whore looking to make a buck. Don't get me wrong I still think Roethlisberger is a jagoff for many reasons besides being a womanizer, but you could leave the rich lawyers at home and have the case dropped with a crack head dressed as a clown representing you. I was quick to believe that he did it because he seems like such a douche fucker, but when you take a step back and look at it objectionably the only thing wrong he did was bang a somewhat hot college chick on his birthday. If you can't bang hot college chicks then why even bother to become a pro-athlete?

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:18 pm ]
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Had he not had the money he would have been convicted. If you have sex with anyone that is drunk and you are not, regardless i they consented that is still considered rape because they were inebriated and didn't have a conscious choice in the matter. Even though alcohol is an excuse used by women who say they wouldn't do that while sober which is also clearly a lie.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:32 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: If you have sex with anyone that is drunk and you are not, regardless i they consented that is still considered rape because they were inebriated and didn't have a conscious choice in the matter. i dont think so. its not morally right, but i dont think its illegal.

Author:	fly as hale [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:43 pm ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote: i dont think so. its not morally right, but i dont think its illegal. It's a blurred line between "morally right" and rape in a situation like that.

Author:	Squanto [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:53 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: If you have sex with anyone that is drunk and you are not, regardless i they consented that is still considered rape because they were inebriated and didn't have a conscious choice in the matter. Only if they can prove that they were drunk enough that they could not give consent. That doesn't mean being hammered and making a poor choice to go home with someone. That means someone who cannot walk/stand/talk on their own because they are too drunk. The 'I was drunk' defense has been under scrutiny for years because women had a few beers, had sex with a guy, regretted it later, and filed a rape charge.

Author:	Squanto [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:55 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: It's not like first degree rape, but I think it's like statutory rape or something. Basically, just don't do it. Statutory rape is a sex act that is by legal definition rape. It's almost exclusively for sex involving minors. Having sex with a drunk woman is not instantly a rape charge.

Author:	fly as hale [ Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:31 pm ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote: ive had sex with drunk girls while sober. but i was in long term relationships with both of em. so its ok. Okay.

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Author:	daz28 [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:16 am ]
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I'm assuming Ben told the commish(or someone leaked it)the truth, and that's why he got a 6 game suspension. Under NO circumstances would I stand for a suspension because I got laid. I also wouldn't apologize or regret the behavior. If he were completely innocent, then Travis Henry and McGahee would have both been perpetually suspended. If you think Ben is completely innocent, you're fooling yourself. To the semi-educated laymen on the street, he's guilty as sin.

Author:	X-pensfan [ Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:35 pm ]
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daz28 wrote: I'm assuming Ben told the commish(or someone leaked it)the truth, and that's why he got a 6 game suspension. Under NO circumstances would I stand for a suspension because I got laid. I also wouldn't apologize or regret the behavior. If he were completely innocent, then Travis Henry and McGahee would have both been perpetually suspended. If you think Ben is completely innocent, you're fooling yourself. To the semi-educated laymen on the street, he's guilty as sin. Roethlisberger represents the NFL and more importantly (to me anyways) the Pittsburgh Steelers. We have enough problems with wide receivers that can't hide their pot, line backers who can't keep their dogs from chewing everything from their neighbors ponies to their own kids, and of course the deplorable wife beaters. We don't need our franchise QB raping women or being called one, it's a poor reflection on the Steelers and the city itself. Either he thought about that or he didn't. Either way he's guilty and deserved the games. Rumor has it there were some very interesting trade offers being made by the Steelers, but they are giving him one last chance. Harrison hasn't stepped out of line (off the field) since his talk with the Roonies, Holmes has sent packing after his second mistake. Seems like Roethlisberger has been given more slack, but I think he's finally gotten the message. He's supposedly getting married this summer.

Author:	Los9090 [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:26 am ]
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I saw a blurb of his interview on SportsCenter and he sounded so FAKE. "yeah, I want to win this for the fans as a token of appreciation" or whatever. Basically saying, "SORRY! I Fucked up!! I won the Super Bowl!! All is forgiven!!!"

Author:	X-pensfan [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:16 pm ]
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Los9090 wrote: I saw a blurb of his interview on SportsCenter and he sounded so FAKE. "yeah, I want to win this for the fans as a token of appreciation" or whatever. Basically saying, "SORRY! I Fucked up!! I won the Super Bowl!! All is forgiven!!!" He can make it up but staying out of the media until he isn't a STeeler anymore. In the meantime, if he wants to win Super Bowls I don't mind that...