That sentence was correct when I quoted it, I'm fairly positive. Just making a joke.

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I know. Douche.

Off to class....night Sabres Junkie.

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Glad to have you back, Pat

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mechaphil

Douche? That cuts deep. :C

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re: What was stated earlier about the ad at the bottom of the page... I did that just now and had to do a double-take.

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‎"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation."
-Khalil Gibran

ok, i feel strong enough to enter the thread now


Should these priests be subject to the same laws as everyone else?

answer to that is yes


However, and correct me if im wrong, the theory of the time was that it could be remedied by switchign the situation, and that you could be rehabiliated


obviously, we do not think that way now

Also, the US has been and is taking care of the problem

From the early 70s to now, the pedophile crimes commited by priests in the US has been a sharp decline


Also, one of the problems is, during the 60's and 70s, there was a lot of modernism in the church, which let people with SSA(same sex attraction) enter the seminary, and they indulged in homosexual acts

my point is, it is hard to compare the acts of the past based on current standards

People, both ordained and the secular gov'ts screwed up.
but, it is important to point out.

The Church did not rape or molest little boys, but corrupt individuals within the Church did

if a priest is convicted of it, then he should be defrocked

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

Normally I stay away from this sort of bullshit for the simple fact I just can’t be bothered getting into a pissing contest on the interwebs over who is right and who is wrong. On this matter, I'll pitch in my 2 cents because of the shit day I've been having at work, I find this shit to be very fucking disgusting and it is my honest opinion that the modern day structure of the church has collapsed. (Taken and somewhat modified from Slayers, “Darkness of Christ”)

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It is because of this kind of crap (and the fact I think it’s all one big long boring story book) that I have denounced Christianity. No, I’m not a Satan worshiper, although I do listen to Slayer and Lamb of God maybe a lot more than I should. But when I see that, “So & so” received Jail time for diddling little boys and a man of the cloth is just relocated and told to ask god for forgiveness as his punishment, I have to ask… does god shoot him off an email or something like that, saying;

“Dear Mr. Priest guy, Big Daddy G, here…

Just wanted to let you know I was watching when you had your thumb in little Tommy’s butt the other day after mass. Not cool, dude. Not cool at all. Now, as a human being, (Because, you know… that IS what you are…) I understand you have urges and whatnot. I get that. But common, man; a little boy? Well, I’m sure you feel the level of shame in relation to my feeling embarrassed for you, at least, you better. So here’s the deal;

For digging around in Tommy’s PB jar, I want you to say 10 Hail Marys and a handful of Our Fathers and I’ll remove this from your temporary record. But you gatta cut this stuff out, man. It’s getting harder to cover up and defend you guys.

Your pal,

Big Daddy G.

(God)”


How does the offending priest know that he is truly forgiven? This boggles my mind. Sure, one could say that they; “Feel” forgiven. Ok, yeah, sure. So when a person goes out and gets high as a kite to the point where they “Feel” they can fly, does that really mean they can fly? If that’s the case, they should try it and let us all know by their obituary how THAT worked out for them. I know as an individual, I believe that we can forgive someone (should we choose to do so) and truly mean it. We can say to the person who may have wronged us, “I forgive you”. It’s there and it’s real. How does this priest know they were forgiven? Is there a hotline to heaven or something? Do they have something like the “Sin-line” with a big red phone like on the 60’s TV series of Batman? Seriously!?

As for the legal end of things, I don’t get how by wearing a collar that you are absolved or given a form of immunity for a crime or action that any average Joe will get 5-10 years for. You do the crime, do the time. Plain and fucking simple. Bottom line is; they do this shit knowing damn well it’s wrong. But they do it anyway. Why? Because the whole goddamn thing is more corrupt than the people in our respective countries governing our lands. The difference is, the government only has their hands in all the cookie jars (Banks etc...). Not their thumbs in little Tommy’s butt.

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If it's a tight squeeze, spit on it! - NyI

He's a middling AHL player who had the good fortune of a drunk arbitrator. - The Squanto re: Tim Kennedy

a priest molesting children doesnt encapsulate Christianity, and an atheist molesting children doesnt encapsulate atheists. if this is a rally against religion, it should stop, and stop fast.

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It really isn't, and hasn't really come close to it, either. When religious members of the forums agree that it's fucked up, there really doesn't seem to be much consternation.

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mechaphil

+1

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If it's a tight squeeze, spit on it! - NyI

He's a middling AHL player who had the good fortune of a drunk arbitrator. - The Squanto re: Tim Kennedy

id also like to point out slayer and lamb of god suck. no, not because i disagree, just they suck.

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Well, you're an emo, so what'd you know?

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mechaphil

aren't you the guy who likes coheed? ahaha

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When I was a boy I spoke as a boy, I understood as a boy, and I thought as a boy; when I became a man I took that boy outside and shot him.

theres some good metal out there, its just not those two bands.

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Even if you don't like Slayer, you've got to respect what they mean to metal. And Lamb of God is ridiculously awesome.

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mechaphil

i guess, but people say the same thing about a ton of bands.

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It's simple to me.

The church can take whatever action that they feel is appropriate for their religious beliefs. At the same time, these men of the cloth need to be handled through the justice system to answer for society.

and that i will agree with

If a man is convicted of being a sex offender, then it is my firm belief that he should be defrocked as soon as all the facts are in and it is without doubt that he did it

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Don't you find it difficult to respect an organization that does not issue out some sort of penalty, or atleast utter a sigh of disapproval at such a crime? Who's leader neglects to do ANYTHING about it?

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When I was a boy I spoke as a boy, I understood as a boy, and I thought as a boy; when I became a man I took that boy outside and shot him.

"Don't you find it difficult to respect an organization that does not issue out some sort of penalty, or at least utter a sigh of disapproval at such a crime? Who's leader neglects to do ANYTHING about it?"


You could be talking about any government here, or any organizational structure. Including the USA.