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Toddmh
 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:46 pm 
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Yep the Sabres are taking on the chin in every part of the game in this series..Well Miller has been ok,but even he is "off" IMO


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:58 pm 
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The Bruins are just flat out bigger and stronger the the Sabres, and Chara is an absolute wall of a defender.

Chara can't be wore down.

Chara can't be bargained with.

Chara can't be out smarted.

And he's out there for 30+ minutes....


So...they have to be the better team.

The BIG problem with yesterdays game and perhaps the reason they lost, is the back check. The forecheck worked very hard to try and make up for the stature mismatch, and they didn't get back fast to stop the Bruins forwards. The Bruins set up shot after shot after shot after shot in the middle of the high slot. One timers with the whole net to shoot at? Yeah, not even Miller is gonna get all of those and two get through tonight.

The fix is pretty easy, and they actually already made this adjustment late in the first. Keep a forward high in the Ozone, resist the temptation to support the cycle TOO much because they will get trapped!

The second goal was a savvy vet exposing a rookie, it happens but I don't think it was Interference, close but no. Again, if everybody is back on defense they still don't get the high percentage shooting ice.

So, I think the Sabres may need to concede their forecheck and instead go with a 1-4 delay! They need to capitalize on the BooHooins mistakes, instead of trying to out work them down low.

And they have got to move more on the power play, rotate the points around, get an umbrella going, show them something new and make Rask move around and get confused!

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daz28
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:14 pm 
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It seems to me that the Sabres are a real lazy, gutless team....... I'm tired of waqtching teams dump it in and beat us to pucks in our own zone while each of our payers watch the puck........ I mean come on this is ridiculous, when we dump it in it comes right back out with no sabre in sight of even getting to the dump in but when other teams do it to us we watch the puck and let the other team beat us to the puck and keep it in Im getting tired of watching this team.... It's boring hockey very boring and very pathetic........ Thoughts??? Comments????

I'm just curious if the Sabres win next game 5-1, will you be posting about how fast, talented, and dominant we are, or will we still be lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless??


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powerplayer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:21 pm 
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daz28 wrote:
I'm just curious if the Sabres win next game 5-1, will you be posting about how fast, talented, and dominant we are, or will we still be lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless??


"I'm just curious if the Sabres win next game 5-1, will you be posting about how fast, talented, and dominant we are, or will we still be lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless?"

Perhpas you're taking his comments too personally. You speak as if you're on the team he's criticizing. Step back and recognize that those who rag on certain aspects of this team's game are criticizing THEM, not YOU.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:22 pm 
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daz28 wrote:
heinfe00 wrote:
It seems to me that the Sabres are a real lazy, gutless team....... I'm tired of waqtching teams dump it in and beat us to pucks in our own zone while each of our payers watch the puck........ I mean come on this is ridiculous, when we dump it in it comes right back out with no sabre in sight of even getting to the dump in but when other teams do it to us we watch the puck and let the other team beat us to the puck and keep it in Im getting tired of watching this team.... It's boring hockey very boring and very pathetic........ Thoughts??? Comments????

I'm just curious if the Sabres win next game 5-1, will you be posting about how fast, talented, and dominant we are, or will we still be lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless??


This is why I HATE when people make this argument. It's bogus and a complete cop out. You're better than that Daz, I've known you since the LGS Borads. Its ridiculous to even make this statement.....OF COURSE if we win 5-1 we won't be talking about lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless play.......BECAUSE IF YOU WIN 5-1 YOU AREN'T PLAYING THAT KIND OF HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!! ITS THAT SIMPLE.......

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daz28
 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:23 pm 
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powerplayer wrote:
daz28 wrote:
I'm just curious if the Sabres win next game 5-1, will you be posting about how fast, talented, and dominant we are, or will we still be lazy, boring, pathetic and gutless??


Perhpas you're taking his comments too personally. You speak as if you're on the team he's criticizing. Step back and recognize that those who rag on certain aspects of this team's game are address THEM, not YOU.

If it weren't his 4th post, I wouldn't have asked. I almost wrote that in my original post. It is, however, a legitimate question.

If you meant me saying, "we", then you have obviously never seen a message board before, or have you spoken with any fans; nor listened to any radio shows. "We" implies the fans, organization, and city.


Ez Max, give me time to explain myself. I'm as mad as the next guy.


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powerplayer
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daz28 wrote:

If you meant me saying, "we", then you have obviously never seen a message board before, or have you spoken with any fans; nor listened to any radio shows. "We" implies the fans, organization, and city.


You are correct. Fans do that all the time, I was just never one of them. I guess I always felt kinda silly speaking as if I had anything to do with a win or loss. I always refer to a team as "they". Doesn't mean I'm not proud of a team I follow, just feel funny speaking like I am sharing a bench with them.

I always laughed at Jerry Seinfeld's routine where he says "sports fans always scream "we on, we won" after a victory. He says "No you didn't. THEY won, YOU watched!"

In a nutshell, that's always been my gut feeling on this.


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daz28
 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
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powerplayer wrote:
daz28 wrote:

If you meant me saying, "we", then you have obviously never seen a message board before, or have you spoken with any fans; nor listened to any radio shows. "We" implies the fans, organization, and city.


You are correct. Fans do that all the time, I was just never one of them. I guess I always felt kinda silly speaking as if I had anything to do with a win or loss. I always refer to a team as "they". Doesn't mean I'm not proud of a team I follow, just feel funny speaking like I am sharing a bench with them.

I always laughed at Jerry Seinfeld's routine where he says "sports fans always scream "we on, we won" after a victory. He says "No you didn't. THEY won, YOU watched!"

In a nutshell, that's always been my natural feeling on this.

To each their own(or his/hers own).


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 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
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powerplayer wrote:
daz28 wrote:

If you meant me saying, "we", then you have obviously never seen a message board before, or have you spoken with any fans; nor listened to any radio shows. "We" implies the fans, organization, and city.


You are correct. Fans do that all the time, I was just never one of them. I guess I always felt kinda silly speaking as if I had anything to do with a win or loss. I always refer to a team as "they". Doesn't mean I'm not proud of a team I follow, just feel funny speaking like I am sharing a bench with them.

I always laughed at Jerry Seinfeld's routine where he says "sports fans always scream "we on, we won" after a victory. He says "No you didn't. THEY won, YOU watched!"

In a nutshell, that's always been my gut feeling on this.


I completely disagree.

Fandom is a form of ownership. We as fans invest our time, energy, and money into our clubs.

We are the reason players, coaches, and managers get paid.

We, therefore, are the most important part of the Buffalo Sabres organization.

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daz28
 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:42 pm 
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Ok, so we have both sides of it, that discussion is over(I hope).

Can we go back to discussing why the Vezina goalie may be sitting with no offensive threat whatsoever? I'm just having trouble wondering why we still play little forwards in a defensive role(see Kennedy bouncing off example). The guys are mostly scorers. I dunno, maybe someone can make some sense, cuz I don't get it right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:00 am 
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How many times are we going to see Ennis, Kennedy, Roy win a battle along the boards without help?


How many times are we going to see Ennis, Kennedy, and Roy-SIZED players on this team?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:20 am 
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The Sabres are putting in effort, but it's just not enough effort.. Every one of your players has to run around the ice like a mad man, like the Boston players..

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I really think we're seeing the result of Vanek and Hecht being out, Connolly being out of shape, and our rookies being rookies.

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That, Adam, and this team is just. too. damned. small.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it me or........
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
I really think we're seeing the result of Vanek and Hecht being out, Connolly being out of shape, and our rookies being rookies.

The PP that never materialized. Some teams are hanging by a thread only BECAUSE of their PP. Without it they'd be done already(see SJ et al.)


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That, Adam, and this team is just. too. damned. small.


I think that when you have some time to cool and take a step back, you'll start thinking that maybe tonights game wasn't so bad.

This series isn't over, and if Connolly can keep improving and vanek can return, I think game 4 is a win.

Then its back to buffalo.

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daz28
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
That, Adam, and this team is just. too. damned. small.


I think that when you have some time to cool and take a step back, you'll start thinking that maybe tonights game wasn't so bad.

This series isn't over, and if Connolly can keep improving and vanek can return, I think game 4 is a win.

Then its back to buffalo.

Agreed, Vanek is the x-factor. If he's ok, then Timmy and Helen will blend back in. We really need TV skating. HUUUUGE BUFFALO HUUUUUUUUUUGE!

The injuries just might get us again. I'm for Gerbe at this point. Making them guess at their hits is better than assuring them you will be pinching along the boards(playing bank shots when challenged and losing to intelligent defenseman). If Lindy plays his zombie lines(system), we're in trouble. We need to play to win. If he plays his "I'll play defensive until Cain is acquitted" philosophy then we're done. They'll eat that up.

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it doenst help that our team is full of fucking midgets who couldnt knock over a sand castle.

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The Sabres size is only a disadvantage when they play in a way that allows Boston to exploit them for it.

The boys won game one because they used their speed. Boston looked like they were running circles that game trying to keep up with us.

If they'd get back to that, we'd be fine.

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Word. Boston can't hit what they can't catch. Half of their defensive core is made up of guys that can't clock in at higher than 2 miles per hour.

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