In that case, hell fucking yea. Then whoever swoops down to get him for his $5Mish per would owe the Sabres a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick.

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Hellz


Yes.

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I could see Darcy trading for him rather than signing him to an offer sheet.

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Eh

That's the ONLY way the Sabres would get him, because Darcy Regier refuses to deal in offer sheets.

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mechaphil

it's kind of like trading for carter. if you do it and cannot sign him you are compensated with picks, if someone offers him an extreme contract. except you would get at least a year out of carter. i doubt darcy would trade for ryan and not sign him.

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True true. Thing is, ANA would want a huge package back for Ryan because of what he's already accomplished and can accomplish in the future if he were to stay on the Perry/Getzlaf line.

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mechaphil

I'd just wait to see if the deadline passes for a qualifying offer, and then go to bidding with everyone else once he becomes a UFA. Giving up all those draft picks means you not only are taking up the big cap hit, but limiting your ability to bring up cheap talent to make cap room in the future to even things out. On the other hand, with Bobby F-ing Ryan our draft picks would end up at the end of every round, so it might not make much difference.

I thought he wanted a shorter term deal though. An offer sheet would only make sense if he would sign for 5-6 years (at about 5.5 mil per).

He does want a shorter term. He wants 3 years, but the Ducks want to give him 5.

Has he been presented with a QO and accepted it? Was he presented with one but rejected it? Anyone know?

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mechaphil

OK, so he was given his QO on the 28th, which was the deadline. How long until a QO expires and he becomes a UFA?

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If you accept a Qualifying offer you accept a 105-110% raise of last years salary.

The QO is only meant for teams to retain the rights of RFA's after July 1st. Most RFA's won't accept them because they are worth more, the ones who accept them are the 4th line energy guys because they couldn't get anymore money from the team.

Ryan can get plenty for a current contract, no way he would accept the QO.

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Well, then why hasn't anyone else bid on Ryan yet? And why have people been talking about waiting for him to become UFA (on 7/15)? Only one logical reason - he accepted his QO.

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mechaphil

Getzlaf is still an asshole.

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No Phil, if Ryan accepted a QO he'd be under contract now. He rejected it, but the fact that Anaheim made the offer provided them until July 15 to continue exclusive negotiations.

Oh. Word, thanks for clarifying.

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mechaphil

Qualifying Offers

The current team must extend a "qualifying offer" to a restricted free agent to retain negotiating rights to that player.

Players who earned less than $660,000 in the previous season must be offered 110 percent of last season's salary. Players making up to $1 million must be offered 105 percent. Players making over $1 million must be offered 100 percent.

If the qualifying offer is not made, the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.

If the player rejects a qualifying offer, he remains a restricted free agent.

It just makes sure the team can still negotiate with them, and no other team can extend an offer sheet on him yet.

Offer Sheets and Restricted Free Agents

# The Offer Sheet is a Contract

An offer sheet is a contract negotiated between an NHL team and a restricted free agent on another team.

The offer sheet includes all the terms of a standard player contract, including length, salary, bonuses, etc.

A player who has signed a qualifying offer or is going to salary arbitration with his original team cannot sign an offer sheet.

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/nhlfre ... ents_2.htm a great site explaining the current CBA of hockey.

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Knowing Philly, I wouldn't be surprised if they trade for Ryan.

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