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mechaphil
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:05 am 
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What SDGI said.

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Geez, I didn't think Larry's comment is bad at all. I like that he said it. While he didn't come out and blatantly say, "Yes, there will be a new owner.", it was his way of saying, "Even though the team is changing owernership, you don't have to worry about relocation." For Sabres fans who went through the bankruptcy years, relocation of the franchise was a serious possibility, so I can see why Quinn made that comment.




see the comment that made me pissed was this (from wgr not the buffalo news) :

Buffalo Sabres Managing partner Larry Quinn told reporters at the HSBC Arena that the Sabres cannot move from Buffalo. “The only assurance that I would give to fans until there is a sale, or if there is a sale is they need to know something we did five years ago,” said Quinn. “In bankruptcy, we committed to a non-relocation agreement, which we didn’t have to do, to keep the Buffalo Sabres here forever. From a fans point of view, that’s all they needed to worry about.”



i mean yeah, we went through a time when we had to worry about losing the sabres, and its awesome knowing we won't.. but just the fact how he goes to say that they didn't have to do that and that's all we need to worry about is kind of a slap in the face from management/our owners. its like he said, "hey it shouldn't matter to you fans what we do, and if we never win the cup, cus we kept your precious sabres here." :snooty:

That is exactly as how I read it. It made me feel like the current management team serious doesn't care if they win a championship. Golisano did the only job he wanted to do. He kept the Sabres in Buffalo. If this sale does not go through I do not expect much to change with the players or management to try and win. They are content with the status quo which is painfully plain to see with a self inposed cap and aquiring has beens (for the most part) to fill gaps.

The way he present that comment I feel like they seriously don't care what us fans want because they know that the fans will come....no matter what and that won't change. We love our Sabres and will keep paying to watch mediocre

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For once I'm not worried about relocation. I just want an owner that wants the cup badly. Miller isn't getting any younger, some times you have to just go all in and hope for the best. Tom G and his butt buddy Quinn will never allow that to happen with self imposed caps and getting bargin bin players. Sure some of them turn out well, such as Leopold and Montador, but not all do.

Lets get an owner in here that gives a crap. I really hope this sale happens soon. Give us hope for the future.

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Can someone explain to me how 'We want fans to know that we wanted to keep the team in Buffalo' translates to 'We really didn't care about trying to win a championship'? Because it doesn't.

This is the first season under BTG's ownership that the Sabres didn't spend to the cap. People seem to forget that just a couple of seasons ago the Sabres were investigated to make sure they weren't stashing Tim Connolly on LTIR just to have cap room. This notion that BTG has run the team cheap and never spent money on players it completely fucking wrong. The money was spent wrong by the GM. However, the money was spent. This revisionist history that BTG was a tightwad really needs to stop.

Quinn's comment was simple. He won't comment on the sale because he's been directed not to by BTG. He does however want to protect his and BTG's legacy with the team. BTG should be commended. He saved the franchise. The team was run well, even if the product on the ice didn't always reflect that. He went out of his way to make sure that after he was gone, the team would be here.

Now that the team is secure and stable, he's stepping aside to allow someone with more passion to run the show.

How anyone can hate on that is beyond me.


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So when is the big announcement going to happen, the World Juniors are done?

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"After the world juniors" could be anytime in the next month or two..

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SABRESAllTheWay wrote:
"After the world juniors" could be anytime in the next month or two..


At best, the sale will need to be approved in the next NHL meeting, usually the board of governors I assume. If that is later this month, the vote to approve the sale can pass, and the transaction occurs immediately. Then, by the trade deadline, Monday, 28 February, if new ownership is in place, Regier can make necessary player moves, only if he is still involved in the organization.

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I think people expect a bit much from a ownership change in the short run. The contracts of the current roster stay the same and I expect a new owner to complete the season with the current management.

He can't turn this team into a cup contender anyway at the trade deadline, therefore I don't think anything will happen this season (except the ownership change)

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sabretoothpick wrote:
I think people expect a bit much from a ownership change in the short run. The contracts of the current roster stay the same and I expect a new owner to complete the season with the current management.

He can't turn this team into a cup contender anyway at the trade deadline, therefore I don't think anything will happen this season (except the ownership change)

That's the basic idea I have as well. Making big moves at the trade deadline wouldn't be smart. If we were a bit closer to making the playoffs then it wouldn't be bad but right now I think it would be wiser to wait until the season ends and try to rebuild then. Fans are expecting a cup contender next season but they have to see that it will take a season or two of growing pains until it happens.

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Squanto wrote:
Can someone explain to me how 'We want fans to know that we wanted to keep the team in Buffalo' translates to 'We really didn't care about trying to win a championship'? Because it doesn't.

This is the first season under BTG's ownership that the Sabres didn't spend to the cap. People seem to forget that just a couple of seasons ago the Sabres were investigated to make sure they weren't stashing Tim Connolly on LTIR just to have cap room. This notion that BTG has run the team cheap and never spent money on players it completely fucking wrong. The money was spent wrong by the GM. However, the money was spent. This revisionist history that BTG was a tightwad really needs to stop.

Quinn's comment was simple. He won't comment on the sale because he's been directed not to by BTG. He does however want to protect his and BTG's legacy with the team. BTG should be commended. He saved the franchise. The team was run well, even if the product on the ice didn't always reflect that. He went out of his way to make sure that after he was gone, the team would be here.

Now that the team is secure and stable, he's stepping aside to allow someone with more passion to run the show.

How anyone can hate on that is beyond me.

The statement itself is what pissed people off. He didn't have to tell fans that the ONLY thing we need to worry about is the team leaving or not.

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He didn't have to, but he's not really wrong.

His statement could also be construed as 'Don't worry, this Pegula guy is great. You fans are going to love him, even though I can't say that we're selling to him yet.'


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He is kind of really wrong. Telling us we don't have to worry about anything as long as the team is in Buffalo? Sorry, Larry, but I'm worried about our goaltender playing like a fool, our superstar defenseman's sophomore slump, our leading scorer being out for the season, and why a useless defenseman still wears the C. And I'm not the only one.

I don't fault people for construing what he said as very patronizing, because it is.

I also don't like him complimenting Pegula...hockey vote of confidence is treacherous.

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mechaphil wrote:

I don't fault people for construing what he said as very patronizing, because it is.

This. It's like he was only reassuring us he is a pompous ass, and all we need to know is he's still a douche and that he'll be gone soon enough. If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?


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If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?


Larry Quinn is the Managing Partner. He speaks for BTG, and has since day 1.

Who cares what LQ says anyway? He isn't handling the sale, he can't stop the sale, and he'll be out of here after the sale. He could toss his dick on the table and tell everyone in Buffalo to blow him and I wouldn't give a shit.


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Squanto wrote:
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If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?


Larry Quinn is the Managing Partner. He speaks for BTG, and has since day 1.

Who cares what LQ says anyway? He isn't handling the sale, he can't stop the sale, and he'll be out of here after the sale. He could toss his dick on the table and tell everyone in Buffalo to blow him and I wouldn't give a shit.


See, that wouldn't offend me, I would kind of laugh.

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Squanto wrote:
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If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?

He speaks for BTG, and has since day 1.

As a mouthpiece only. I think Mr. G told him to stfu in this instance, but Larry just had to add something, because keeping his hole shut(and knowing he'll soon be no one) is killing him.

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daz28 wrote:
If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?


Larry Quinn is the Managing Partner. He speaks for BTG, and has since day 1.

He could toss his dick on the table and tell everyone in Buffalo to blow him and I wouldn't give a shit.


See, that wouldn't offend me, I would kind of laugh.

Not likely to happen from a guy who's last sentence is "after all I did for you guys".


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BlueandYellow wrote:
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He could toss his dick on the table and tell everyone in Buffalo to blow him and I wouldn't give a shit.


See, that wouldn't offend me, I would kind of laugh.



Well, that would be fucking hilarious.


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daz28 wrote:
As a mouthpiece only. I think Mr. G told him to stfu in this instance, but Larry just had to add something, because keeping his hole shut(and knowing he'll soon be no one) is killing him.


He won't be a nobody. He'll go back to fucking up the waterfront projects.


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Squanto wrote:
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As a mouthpiece only. I think Mr. G told him to stfu in this instance, but Larry just had to add something, because keeping his hole shut(and knowing he'll soon be no one) is killing him.


He won't be a nobody. He'll go back to fucking up the waterfront projects.

I didn't know there were any waterfront projects to fuck up.


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BlueandYellow wrote:
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daz28 wrote:
If Tommy G. wants to remind us what a great guy he is, he can do it himself. He doesn't need LQ to speak for him. I'd also like to point out to Mr. Larry that his "strong fan base" is NOT real happy with the state of the union. Can we just say fuck this guy, and move along?


Larry Quinn is the Managing Partner. He speaks for BTG, and has since day 1.

Who cares what LQ says anyway? He isn't handling the sale, he can't stop the sale, and he'll be out of here after the sale. He could toss his dick on the table and tell everyone in Buffalo to blow him and I wouldn't give a shit.


See, that wouldn't offend me, I would kind of laugh.

that would be amusing to say the least.

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