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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:17 pm 
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bettman has about as much to do with league discipline as i do running sector 7G at the springfield nuclear powerplant.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
bettman has about as much to do with league discipline as i do running sector 7G at the springfield nuclear powerplant.

If you were the president of that power plant, you'd be responsible for everything that happens there.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:28 pm 
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daz28 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
bettman has about as much to do with league discipline as i do running sector 7G at the springfield nuclear powerplant.

If you were the president of that power plant, you'd be responsible for everything that happens there.


blame the owners.

10 games seems appropriate.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
daz28 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
bettman has about as much to do with league discipline as i do running sector 7G at the springfield nuclear powerplant.

If you were the president of that power plant, you'd be responsible for everything that happens there.


blame the owners.

10 games seems appropriate.

Touche(on the owners thingy).

I'm sure you're comparing the length of suspension to the hit, but I'm adding in the fact that he just came back from a suspension. If you rob a bank the 1st day you're on parole, a judge is gonna(and should be) be harsher.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:04 pm 
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daz28 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
daz28 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
bettman has about as much to do with league discipline as i do running sector 7G at the springfield nuclear powerplant.

If you were the president of that power plant, you'd be responsible for everything that happens there.


blame the owners.

10 games seems appropriate.

Touche(on the owners thingy).

I'm sure you're comparing the length of suspension to the hit, but I'm adding in the fact that he just came back from a suspension. If you rob a bank the 1st day you're on parole, a judge is gonna(and should be) be harsher.


i understand that. but the NHL came down on him ultra hard the first time, IMO. i liked it. but say he got 4 games the first time, and then this happened, we would be agreeing the 10 games is appropriate.

i dunno. i honestly think a 10-12 game suspension for this hit is fine. thats me though.

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I guess I'm just going to have to realize that their low tolerance policies are just bs to satisfy the masses. They don't really care about the players well being.


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10-12 sounds like a decent amount of games, IMO. I'll point out however (because I don't think it has been yet) that after reviewing the play, Clusterfuck's hit seemed a bit suspect as well. In no way am I saying that his hit as bad as the Gillies hit, just pointing it out. That and I just really felt like saying the word, "Clusterfuck" as it defines so much right now for me.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i understand that. but the NHL came down on him ultra hard the first time, IMO. i liked it.


9 games for cheapshotting a guy, injuring him, then standing off the ice continuing to taunt and talk shit to him is 'ultra hard'?

Uh, ok.

He's a repeat offender. He has more penalty minutes in his NHL career than he has time on ice, and it's not even close.

I don't care what Clutterbuck did. One player making a questionable hit doesn't give another player, fresh off a suspension, a pass to throw an elbow at his head. He's a worthless hack that has no business playing professional hockey.


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(As I saw on Twitter, or maybe HF) What happens to a burglar who robs someone on the first day of his parole? Gillies came back from suspension and abandoned the play to attack someone's head. He should've gotten 20, at least. A message would've been spent if he got booted for the season, though. Yet again, the NHL shows it doesn't get it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:53 pm 
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meh, i am happy with both suspensions. thought the 9 games for a first time offender was a message, and 10 for stupid play that didnt result in an injury (to my knowledge) is applicable.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:08 pm 
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Logic like that is why the NHL is a joke. Clutterbuck isn't injured, so the suspension isn't more extensive? He shouldn't have to be injured - Gillies attacked his head. End of story. Injury or not, the act happened.

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mechaphil wrote:
Logic like that is why the NHL is a joke. Clutterbuck isn't injured, so the suspension isn't more extensive? He shouldn't have to be injured - Gillies attacked his head. End of story. Injury or not, the act happened.


to me, im happy with it. the act itself is worth 10 games. had he been injured, tack it on. 10 games isnt a slight suspension, thats a major major suspension that has larger ramifications then just those 10 games. as i said, im satisfied. he did something stupid and thankfully, everyones good. 1/8th the season schedule is cool by me.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:12 pm 
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You keep coming back to adding on games if he's injured. It shouldn't matter if he's injured. End of story. And that's where fans and the NHL don't get it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:14 pm 
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thats how i feel. clutterbuck is fine, so the 10 games is severe punishment to me. the act itself, by itself, equals the 10 games he got.

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Punishment should be based on action, not outcome.

Doing it the way they do it proves the NHL is a richer beer league.

You're also ignoring Gillies' status as a repeat offender by saying that 10 games is fine.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:26 pm 
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But 10 games is more than 9!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:27 pm 
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Squanto wrote:
Punishment should be based on action, not outcome.

Doing it the way they do it proves the NHL is a richer beer league.

You're also ignoring Gillies' status as a repeat offender by saying that 10 games is fine.


i feel the initial 9 games was perfect for a first time offender, perhaps even slightly excessive. but i was happy with the 9 games, and im happy with the 10.

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9 games for cheap shotting, injuring, and TAUNTING is too harsh? Whatever.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:31 pm 
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whatevers right. im fine with my opinion.

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10 games might be enough but I would have been happier if he got 17-20 games because he obviously does not get it.

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