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Do you use Cannabis?
Yes, Often. 13%  13%  [ 6 ]
Yes, Moderately. 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
Yes, Rarely. 13%  13%  [ 6 ]
No, but I have tried it. 20%  20%  [ 9 ]
No, but I might try it some day. 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
No, never tried it, never will. 41%  41%  [ 19 ]
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Sk8haggard9
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Now, I'm sure that ease of access holds true in some areas of the country, but not everywhere. In most areas of the country, there are organized crime syndicates that traffic and distribute the stuff.

We're special here in Cali....

Check this out:
http://www.losangelescannabisclubs.com/ ... ry/#reseda

9 places to legally buy it in my zip code (AKA walking distance)

It's kind of ridiculous actually.


:shock: Crap, thats almost as many Tim Hortons as we have per zip code here! No worries though. That number will go down in your area once more states allow medical marijuana. Right now Cali is the most popular place in the United States for medical users. Once more states jump on board, all the business won't be so condensed within a few states.

Actually, looking at the number of dispenseries and considering more states seem to be jumping on board and Obama stopped the medical dispenseray raids, now wouldn't be a bad time to invest in medical marijuana stock.


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I have never tried it and never will, I just don't see the point of it. Getting drunk is better. ;)

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The point i was trying to make was on the issue of legality. It doesn't hurt anyone else, so I think the individual should be allowed to decide whether they want to indulge or not


I went to high school across the street from an Indian reservation. If I wanted a dime bag, I could walk across the street and get it. No cartels, no dealers, you just knew who was growing and would sell it. (Although I wasn't a smoker myself, I hung out with a lot of folks who did.)

Now, I'm sure that ease of access holds true in some areas of the country, but not everywhere. In most areas of the country, there are organized crime syndicates that traffic and distribute the stuff. Ties to foreign drug cartels, other organized crime groups, that's all out there. A good portion of the money made is then used to finance other, non-drug related, activities that do affect people that don't use.

I'm just not on board that it's a victimless crime. The act of smoking it? I'll agree there. But the problem is that by purchasing it you're probably supporting illegal activity somewhere else too.


This seems to me to be another reason why it should be legalized.

Personally, as a university student, i know 5-10 guys in my building who sell. For the most part, they're all very studious individuals with bright futures. But I certainly lack the gumption to get involved with selling, it's not something I'm interested in getting into.


I know many people who sell also. Some grow there own. I would much rather support these guys because I know where the money is going. The ones that go to Canada, work for some dude they never met clipping plants and bringing them across borders to sell is where it gets sketchy.

The prohibition of cannabis opens up a black market of organized crime that is not needed. Its the same as the prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s. As soon as it was illegal, organized crime was huge surrounding the smuggling and sale of alcohol. Legalizing cannabis would stunt this black market and we wouldn't be funding this organized crime.

Also, we wouldn't have to come in contact with these criminals, so we wouldn't be putting ourselves in situations to come in contact with other drugs. Its a win-win-win-win for just about every side here. The only people that don't want it legal are the dealers and crime rings. Their whole business and way of income would be completely blown apart as soon as marijuana becomes legal. This would mean they would have to get jobs and actually contribute to society.


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patkane88 wrote:
I have never tried it and never will, I just don't see the point of it. Getting drunk is better. ;)


You see, I enjoy cannabis way better than alcohol. It helps me actively think deeper into my problems and come to a conclusion, rather than drowning them in calorie filled liquid that can make people turn into mindless, bumbling idiots. I can control myself when I smoke. I skateboard better. My grades have gone up since I think more critically and have actually found learning more interesting. (not that they were bad before, never had a semester under a 3.2 and most of them have been 3.6-3.8 since I started using)
I'm smart about it though. I know when to use it, how much to use, and how not to be an idiot. Stupid "potheads" that are idiots and only care about getting high is what gives cannabis users bad names.

This is not knocking on you or anyone else that drinks. I just see alot more crime and alot worse behaviour from drunks and I personally just prefer chilling out with new perceptions, thinking, and learning.

Last night when I was sober and playing a video game. After some cannabis time I automatically just wanted to learn so I watched science and history documentaries on various things I was interested in, googling anything they brought up that I thought was interesting. Without the cannabis I wouldn't have had that desire to better my knowledge and probably would have just sat there shooting virtual figures in the head for 4 hours.
But like I said, its not for everyone... and for the people its for, they have to be mature enough to not abuse it.


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patkane88 wrote:
I have never tried it and never will, I just don't see the point of it. Getting drunk is better. ;)

While I have used this saying during discussions of sexual preference, I really don't see how it applies here. IMO, it's pretty hard to compare drinking vs. smoking if you've only drank. If a smoker said he never drank, but that smoking is clearly better anyways, I'm sure you'd object to that.


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A number of people have mentioned smoking to alleviate social anxiety. I gotta tell you it's completely the opposite for me. I won't smoke it at parties or really any social situations anymore. My thoughts would always end up something like this.

oh god i cant believe i took that last hit.i cant believe i took those last THREE hits.shit i've already forgotten that chick's name.i guess it doesn't matter since i'm too high to talk to her anyway.did someone just say my name?oooh i can tell that guy KNOWS i'm high.i definitely heard my name that time...i think.oh fuck i thought my fly was down for a second.shit now all i can do is try to drink my way out of this.

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to quote the great Daniel Tosh:

"I THINK WE SHOULD LEGALIZE MARIJUANA… SO POTHEADS HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT EVER AGAIN. COME ON, IT DOES GET A LITTLE ANNOYING AFTER A WHILE. 'HEY YOU WANNA GET HIGH?', 'NO', 'WHY NOT?', 'BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE SEVENTH GRADE, AND I HAVE THINGS TO DO.' GROW UP AND DO COKE LIKE AN ADULT."

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fan4life61 wrote:
to quote the great Daniel Tosh:

"I THINK WE SHOULD LEGALIZE MARIJUANA… SO POTHEADS HAVE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT EVER AGAIN. COME ON, IT DOES GET A LITTLE ANNOYING AFTER A WHILE. 'HEY YOU WANNA GET HIGH?', 'NO', 'WHY NOT?', 'BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE SEVENTH GRADE, AND I HAVE THINGS TO DO.' GROW UP AND DO COKE LIKE AN ADULT."

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Sk8haggard9 wrote:
and to whoever said that we would get sick of the government weed and want something stronger...

Cannabis has been cultivated in Asia for HUNDREDS of years. You can't be that naive to think that the dealers and drug cartels would find a way to make stronger weed than the government is already getting out in certain medical states? The government stuff is perfectly cultivated and alot better than the street shit you can get anyway. If the government was doing it it would be a ton safer because you would know what your getting and wouldn't have to worry about seeing a sketchy dealer and possibly coming in contact with other drugs.


Bingo.

It's insane to think the cartels would keep trying to do things illegally when, if cannabis were legalized, they could become filthy rich legally.

If anything, it would cut down on the trafficking of more dangerous drugs because they have a whole new legal industry to take part in.

The main reason these cartels get into drugs is for the money. If a cannabis industry is created, not only for smoking, but also for cannabis fiber as a raw material, we're talking billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Sk8haggard9 wrote:
and to whoever said that we would get sick of the government weed and want something stronger...

Cannabis has been cultivated in Asia for HUNDREDS of years. You can't be that naive to think that the dealers and drug cartels would find a way to make stronger weed than the government is already getting out in certain medical states? The government stuff is perfectly cultivated and alot better than the street shit you can get anyway. If the government was doing it it would be a ton safer because you would know what your getting and wouldn't have to worry about seeing a sketchy dealer and possibly coming in contact with other drugs.


Bingo.

It's insane to think the cartels would keep trying to do things illegally when, if cannabis were legalized, they could become filthy rich legally.

If anything, it would cut down on the trafficking of more dangerous drugs because they have a whole new legal industry to take part in.

The main reason these cartels get into drugs is for the money. If a cannabis industry is created, not only for smoking, but also for cannabis fiber as a raw material, we're talking billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.



Potentially trillions. If you think about how many people who have doctorates in botany and how much they would make and how many 'mom and pop's marijuana bungalo"'s would pop up and how much more fertilizer, chemicals, soil and other things would sell, this could be a huge industry.

But here's where the issue lies.

THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT TAX IT

Booze, hard to make, doesnt usually turn out good, and not worth it in the end.
Tobacco only flurishes in certain parts of the country and hard to get done properly

Marijuana, grows anywhere, easily adapts, able to be grown in and out doors and easier to cultivate than a corn stalk.

Therefore, will never happen.

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Godsmack wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Sk8haggard9 wrote:
and to whoever said that we would get sick of the government weed and want something stronger...

Cannabis has been cultivated in Asia for HUNDREDS of years. You can't be that naive to think that the dealers and drug cartels would find a way to make stronger weed than the government is already getting out in certain medical states? The government stuff is perfectly cultivated and alot better than the street shit you can get anyway. If the government was doing it it would be a ton safer because you would know what your getting and wouldn't have to worry about seeing a sketchy dealer and possibly coming in contact with other drugs.


Bingo.

It's insane to think the cartels would keep trying to do things illegally when, if cannabis were legalized, they could become filthy rich legally.

If anything, it would cut down on the trafficking of more dangerous drugs because they have a whole new legal industry to take part in.

The main reason these cartels get into drugs is for the money. If a cannabis industry is created, not only for smoking, but also for cannabis fiber as a raw material, we're talking billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.



Potentially trillions. If you think about how many people who have doctorates in botany and how much they would make and how many 'mom and pop's marijuana bungalo"'s would pop up and how much more fertilizer, chemicals, soil and other things would sell, this could be a huge industry.

But here's where the issue lies.

THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT TAX IT

Booze, hard to make, doesnt usually turn out good, and not worth it in the end.
Tobacco only flurishes in certain parts of the country and hard to get done properly

Marijuana, grows anywhere, easily adapts, able to be grown in and out doors and easier to cultivate than a corn stalk.

Therefore, will never happen.


I don't have the time or skills to grow Cannabis, and if I can go pick it up at the store, I have no reason to drive to meet up with somebody else who grows it either. ;)

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Godsmack wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Sk8haggard9 wrote:
and to whoever said that we would get sick of the government weed and want something stronger...

Cannabis has been cultivated in Asia for HUNDREDS of years. You can't be that naive to think that the dealers and drug cartels would find a way to make stronger weed than the government is already getting out in certain medical states? The government stuff is perfectly cultivated and alot better than the street shit you can get anyway. If the government was doing it it would be a ton safer because you would know what your getting and wouldn't have to worry about seeing a sketchy dealer and possibly coming in contact with other drugs.


Bingo.

It's insane to think the cartels would keep trying to do things illegally when, if cannabis were legalized, they could become filthy rich legally.

If anything, it would cut down on the trafficking of more dangerous drugs because they have a whole new legal industry to take part in.

The main reason these cartels get into drugs is for the money. If a cannabis industry is created, not only for smoking, but also for cannabis fiber as a raw material, we're talking billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.



Potentially trillions. If you think about how many people who have doctorates in botany and how much they would make and how many 'mom and pop's marijuana bungalo"'s would pop up and how much more fertilizer, chemicals, soil and other things would sell, this could be a huge industry.

But here's where the issue lies.

THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT TAX IT

Booze, hard to make, doesnt usually turn out good, and not worth it in the end.
Tobacco only flurishes in certain parts of the country and hard to get done properly

Marijuana, grows anywhere, easily adapts, able to be grown in and out doors and easier to cultivate than a corn stalk.

Therefore, will never happen.


I don't have the time or skills to grow Cannabis, and if I can go pick it up at the store, I have no reason to drive to meet up with somebody else who grows it either. ;)


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Godsmack wrote:
Tobacco only flurishes in certain parts of the country and hard to get done properly

Marijuana, grows anywhere, easily adapts, able to be grown in and out doors and easier to cultivate than a corn stalk.

Therefore, will never happen.

True, but tobacco is an easy crop to grow, I'm in the state that produces probably most of the USA's tobacco. And all you do it plant it and let it grow, but being in the warmer climate is all it needs.

I don't really see how it's hard to grow tobacco at all, I've never seen anyone in the fields messing with it while it's growing, I've just seen it grows, it's the same as other crops, you don't mess with it, you just let it grow.

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LMAO!

Thank you for that. :lol:

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oh god i cant believe i took that last hit.i cant believe i took those last THREE hits.shit i've already forgotten that chick's name.i guess it doesn't matter since i'm too high to talk to her anyway.did someone just say my name?oooh i can tell that guy KNOWS i'm high.i definitely heard my name that time...i think.oh fuck i thought my fly was down for a second.shit now all i can do is try to drink my way out of this.


Ummm, normality for me..... :shhh:

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I have never tried it and never will, I just don't see the point of it. Getting drunk is better. ;)

How can you make an assumption of "not seeing the point" when you never tried it? Or anything for that matter.

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