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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:53 pm 
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
The WHOLE quote:

"The adoption of some evolutionarily novel ideas makes some sense in terms of moving the species forward," said George Washington University leadership professor James Bailey, who was not involved in the study. "It also makes perfect sense that more intelligent people -- people with, sort of, more intellectual firepower -- are likely to be the ones to do that."


I was pointing our the ridiculousness of quoting a person that wasn't involved in the study at all, but if you think adding the preceding sentence to his nonsensical justification helps in some way, bully on you.

Well, I was also pointing out that his grammar sucks...or the author was trying to make him look like a bumbler for some reason.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:31 pm 
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Anyone could tell you that the greatest philosophers have always had deep seated, traditional values. No wait....









{Reply}Just because they were philosophers don't mean they were right, now does it??


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:57 pm 
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OK, let's do this plainly...

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Evolutionary psychologist Satoshi Kanazawa at the the London School of Economics and Political Science correlated data


A psychologist sat down and correlated data... and her data set was confined to one country.

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The IQ differences, while statistically significant, are not stunning -- on the order of 6 to 11 points


Everyone realizes how small a 6 - 11 point IQ difference is right?

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Participants who said they were atheists had an average IQ of 103 in adolescence, while adults who said they were religious averaged 97


Is there a specific reason we're not even comparing similar age groups?
I would think that is a statistically significant factor.

Sorry, this doesn't pass the most basic scientific sniff test, but I'm not really surprised...psychologists aren't great with hard science...if they were, they'd be psychiatrists.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:06 am 
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Those who can think critically are generally those with higher IQs. I guess this makes sense...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:17 am 
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Howie Hodge wrote:
This is a very skewed statistic.

Less educated, and for the most part, less intelligent people are more heavily populated in certain geographic areas. It happens that these areas/regions/States are less comtemporary than are many areas of the NE. Naturally they have somewhat older school values, so they would tend to be conservatives, and religious.

Throw that part of the population out, and measure the rest. I seriously doubt that of the remaining segment, IQ measures higher in Liberals or Atheists.

A bit silly, really.


Yuuup. In addition, I'm one of those people that has sort of an issue with IQ tests; I don't think that they're valuable at all unless someone scores either far above or far below average, and this is focusing on an eight-point difference, on average. Really?

Personality types also factor into it. Some do better on IQ tests than others, because they're the types that write them. They also happen to be the types that are most often atheists. (Mine is one of them ahaha.) See what that implies? Yeah.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:21 am 
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I'm a conservative atheist that thinks the critical thinking of long ago liberals has turned into knee jerk acceptance of anything critical or skeptical by today's up-and-coming young people.

Years ago there was more of a natural acceptance to what the pastor/politician/doctor told us. These days people naturally question all of that, but to a fault. It seems to me that many people (and this is purely anecdotal, so take it FWIW) simply jump to the skeptical position based on a predisposed mistrust of authority. This is not truly a critical thought, it is actually nothing more than going with the flow of popular thought. It takes more time and effort to look into why things are the way they are, why rules and laws are written the way they are, and most young people don't have the patience to dig that deep. It's easier to just turn on authority and conclude that they are wrong because they are corrupt/racist/sexist/etc.

To summarize, I don't think there is very much critical thought in today's liberals and skeptics.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
I'm a conservative atheist that thinks the critical thinking of long ago liberals has turned into knee jerk acceptance of anything critical or skeptical by today's up-and-coming young people.

Years ago there was more of a natural acceptance to what the pastor/politician/doctor told us. These days people naturally question all of that, but to a fault. It seems to me that many people (and this is purely anecdotal, so take it FWIW) simply jump to the skeptical position based on a predisposed mistrust of authority. This is not truly a critical thought, it is actually nothing more than going with the flow of popular thought. It takes more time and effort to look into why things are the way they are, why rules and laws are written the way they are, and most young people don't have the patience to dig that deep. It's easier to just turn on authority and conclude that they are wrong because they are corrupt/racist/sexist/etc.

To summarize, I don't think there is very much critical thought in today's liberals and skeptics.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Of course, this goes across the board, really, for everyone, not just liberals and skeptics (though I have to say it does amuse me greatly to see them guilty of the same black-and-white thinking those they condemn possess... um... typically conservatives don't have that complaint of liberals, so it's fine when they're guilty of it, or at least it doesn't bother me beyond the fact that I hate black and white thinking... it's not hypocritical, anyway)... It drives me absolutely crazy on a good day. On average people fancy themselves much better, more thorough thinkers and researchers than they actually are, by far.

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