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CriminallyVu1gar
 Post subject: Today in History
PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:04 am 
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1892 – Canadian Governor General Lord Stanley of Preston pledged to donate what would become the Stanley Cup (1893 version pictured), today the oldest professional sports trophy in North America, as an award for Canada's top-ranking amateur ice hockey club.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
1892 – Canadian Governor General Lord Stanley of Preston pledged to donate what would become the Stanley Cup (1893 version pictured), today the oldest professional sports trophy in North America, as an award for Canada's top-ranking amateur ice hockey club.


Sorry to burst your bubble homie, but there is nothing pictured....

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Sorry, it was from wikipedia's today in history daily article.

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pretty cool. so technically the true part of Lord Stanley's Cup is just the top. The rest of it is just to inscribe the names of the players. didn't know that

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the cup also used to look like this.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the cup also used to look like this.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the cup also used to look like this.

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Used to hate the K Wings back in my day. Adirondack Ice Hawks, baby.


i dunno why you hated them. the k-wings paid your bills, and owned half the ice hawks/frostbite.

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That is some pretty gnarly flow, Mike.

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the original cup is in the trophy room at the Hall of Fame. what the players get isnt the original. Speaking of which. there are actually 2 stanley cups. one that is presented and toured and stuff and another that is put on display when the "real one" is out.

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The original bowl is in the HHOF in Toronto, just because it is too brittle to be on the top, the replica bowl was made in 1960's or something, and each band contains 13 years, and the first few bands are on display also.

I'm not sure if the replica cup used in the HOF has EVERY band or not, but there are no mistakes on the replica cup unlike the actual trophy.

I think the filled up bands are flattened and on display actually. Can't remember what Wiki said to me when I've read about it countless times.

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
The original bowl is in the HHOF in Toronto, just because it is too brittle to be on the top, the replica bowl was made in 1960's or something, and each band contains 13 years, and the first few bands are on display also.

I'm not sure if the replica cup used in the HOF has EVERY band or not, but there are no mistakes on the replica cup unlike the actual trophy.

I think the filled up bands are flattened and on display actually. Can't remember what Wiki said to me when I've read about it countless times.

you are correct about the flattened bands, they are housed in the same room as the original cup.

the replica cup does not have every band. i forgot when it went up to but its not current.

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Yea, they only use 5 bands on the cup since it would just get too long and heavy over time.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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the cup is, remarkably, in bad condition. lots of dings and dents, scratches.. you get up close, and its beautiful, yes. but its dinged and gets dirty easily.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the cup is, remarkably, in bad condition. lots of dings and dents, scratches.. you get up close, and its beautiful, yes. but its dinged and gets dirty easily.

It is silver plated, so it's not the strongest material out there, plus it's hollow too.

Wouldn't doubt the condition Mike. It's been dropped plenty of times and such.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the cup is, remarkably, in bad condition. lots of dings and dents, scratches.. you get up close, and its beautiful, yes. but its dinged and gets dirty easily.

It is silver plated, so it's not the strongest material out there, plus it's hollow too.

Wouldn't doubt the condition Mike. It's been dropped plenty of times and such.

spent a winter in the bottom of a lake in canada.

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The, "Presented" trophy is actually a nickel/silver mix. Since it goes through so much rigorous handling, to have it all silver would be a bad idea. It'd be more bent and lopsided than a ball of silly putty sitting in the sun. Also in the vault at the hall, the original Neck/smaller columns which the bowl sits on have been retired. It was this neck which assisted in the transformation from the cigar or "Smoke stack" look the cup once had, to the more familiar look which it has today (5 band barrel with 3 ring neck + bowl)

There used to be mistakes/flaws on the replica cup (circa 1993) but they decided to redo the bands which had these mistakes on them around that time so yeah, no flaws or mistakes are on the replica.

You're right Sky, each band can hold 13 years worth of names/teams on it but in 1965 when the Habs won it they actually used two spots on the cup to list the names of its winners. So there are only 12 teams listed on that band as opposed to 13. This ultimately threw off the scheduled time in which the cup was to be filled. Ironically enough, it was on schedule to be filled during the 100 Year celebration of the cup at the completion of the 1993 season, marking a turning point to add another band to the bottom.

There is more info to be reviewed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup

Another tidbit of info, there are actually 2 names scratched on the inside of the barrel. Phil Bourque, when he won it in '92 with the Pens (I believe it was that year, might have been in ’91 when he did this..) had the cup delivered to him and it fell apart in his living room. He ran to his shop to get tools to put it back together and in the process, discovered a name on the inside of the barrel. Before he put it back together, he decided that should they ever change the format of the engraving of the cup; his name will forever be etched inside so he scratched his name and the date inside. So the names on the bands may become retired, but his will forever remain on the inside ;)

Another note, the Stanley Cup and the Grey Cup (CFL) are the only trophies in professional sports to sport the names of the teams/players in which win them. They’re also the only professional sports trophies to be awarded annually, unlike the NBA, NFL and MLB where a new one is made and awarded every year.

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And for the 04-05 lockout it is noted on the cup also, with No winner or something listed.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the cup also used to look like this.

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also:

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METAL HAIR


Used to hate the K Wings back in my day. Adirondack Ice Hawks, baby.


i dunno why you hated them. the k-wings paid your bills, and owned half the ice hawks/frostbite.


Let me make that more clear.

Loved the owner, hated the players. :)

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ok, THATS fair enough. haha

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