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jvaccaro6
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Dude bro,

If you think I'm close minded then you couldn't be more far off. I'm very open minded, in the fact that I have several gay friends, several immigrant friends, several friends that aren't your "typical" American. My mind is very closed off to the thinking that it's ok to abuse your body, and abuse your right to health care, simply because you choose to do it.

It's like people that abuse the freedom of speech, such as the one crazy church group that protests at Soldiers Funerals, and tragic sites. Sure they are protected, but they are 100% morally wrong. Same principle here. It's her every right to do it, but it's completely morally wrong to purposely injure yourself, and tack on an additional 500 pounds to your already obese frame, decline the use of obesity drugs, and purposely cripple yourself.

She has access to help that would allow her quality of life to improve, she simply chooses to ignore it, and go in the opposite direction. I personally have no gripe with people who wish to use the system to increase their quality of life, I do however take issue with people who are willing to cripple themselves by binge eating, and not caring who they become a burdon to.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Dude bro,

If you think I'm close minded then you couldn't be more far off. I'm very open minded, in the fact that I have several gay friends, several immigrant friends, several friends that aren't your "typical" American. My mind is very closed off to the thinking that it's ok to abuse your body, and abuse your right to health care, simply because you choose to do it.

It's like people that abuse the freedom of speech, such as the one crazy church group that protests at Soldiers Funerals, and tragic sites. Sure they are protected, but they are 100% morally wrong. Same principle here. It's her every right to do it, but it's completely morally wrong to purposely injure yourself, and tack on an additional 500 pounds to your already obese frame, decline the use of obesity drugs, and purposely cripple yourself.

She has access to help that would allow her quality of life to improve, she simply chooses to ignore it, and go in the opposite direction. I personally have no gripe with people who wish to use the system to increase their quality of life, I do however take issue with people who are willing to cripple themselves by binge eating, and not caring who they become a burdon to.


SICKEST......SALUTATION......EVER!!!!! I love that you actually wrote that out, as if it was a letter to him, and addressed him as "Dude bro." Im laughing like a moron at my desk right now. That being said, I agree with you 100%

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ya know, she only gets one life to live, so she might as well do it her way. i dont approve of it, but ill be damned if i write her off as a waste of life and burden on society, and hope she asphyxiates herself because her norms dont conform with my own.

shes not hurting anyone but herself.

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
Dude bro,

If you think I'm close minded then you couldn't be more far off. I'm very open minded, in the fact that I have several gay friends, several immigrant friends, several friends that aren't your "typical" American. My mind is very closed off to the thinking that it's ok to abuse your body, and abuse your right to health care, simply because you choose to do it.

It's like people that abuse the freedom of speech, such as the one crazy church group that protests at Soldiers Funerals, and tragic sites. Sure they are protected, but they are 100% morally wrong. Same principle here. It's her every right to do it, but it's completely morally wrong to purposely injure yourself, and tack on an additional 500 pounds to your already obese frame, decline the use of obesity drugs, and purposely cripple yourself.

She has access to help that would allow her quality of life to improve, she simply chooses to ignore it, and go in the opposite direction. I personally have no gripe with people who wish to use the system to increase their quality of life, I do however take issue with people who are willing to cripple themselves by binge eating, and not caring who they become a burdon to.


SICKEST......SALUTATION......EVER!!!!! I love that you actually wrote that out, as if it was a letter to him, and addressed him as "Dude bro." Im laughing like a moron at my desk right now. That being said, I agree with you 100%



I agree as well. There are certain lines you don't cross and I think this is one of them. And just as well, Im not closed minded either, I have several friends who are not american, in fact a lot of them are asian, I also have some gay friends, I dont judge them they can do what they want. Do I believe certain things that are questionable? Absolutely. Everyone has their boundaries at some point. No doubt, I think that if she wants to get fatter... she can... but if she needs medical attention she should have to pay for it entirely herself... no help from the government at all, If you decide to violate your body, some kind of repercussions need to be taken. Now I don't know what exactly... but still... you all get what im saying....

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Dude bro,

If you think I'm close minded then you couldn't be more far off. I'm very open minded, in the fact that I have several gay friends, several immigrant friends, several friends that aren't your "typical" American. My mind is very closed off to the thinking that it's ok to abuse your body, and abuse your right to health care, simply because you choose to do it.

It's like people that abuse the freedom of speech, such as the one crazy church group that protests at Soldiers Funerals, and tragic sites. Sure they are protected, but they are 100% morally wrong. Same principle here. It's her every right to do it, but it's completely morally wrong to purposely injure yourself, and tack on an additional 500 pounds to your already obese frame, decline the use of obesity drugs, and purposely cripple yourself.

She has access to help that would allow her quality of life to improve, she simply chooses to ignore it, and go in the opposite direction. I personally have no gripe with people who wish to use the system to increase their quality of life, I do however take issue with people who are willing to cripple themselves by binge eating, and not caring who they become a burdon to.


"Dude bro"...really? Having gay friends doesn't make you open minded...it did 10 years ago - not any more. If by having immigrant friends you mean "illegal" immigrants, you're breaking the law. Technically, unless you're Native American, you're an immigrant too - just generations removed. Like I said before, we don't know that she's abusing her right to health care.

You think that bodybuilders aren't in the same boat as her? They abuse the shit out of their bodies to, to get "bigger". Issues that rise from steroids, joint problems, heart problems, manic depression, I can go on.

I suppose you could say what she's doing is immoral, and would call it 100% unethical if she's abusing the health care system. I think the issue you have here is that she doesn't share the same VALUES as you. She may be purposely injuring herself, but what if the only redemption she gets is seeing that there are people willing to pay to watch her eat? That they want to see a record broken or be part of breaking a record, and she can be that conduit? Do you think that's too far outside the realm of possibility, that she just wants to feel good about herself, and one way of doing that is eating? It's a disorder that's not always able to be cured.

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I agree as well. There are certain lines you don't cross and I think this is one of them. And just as well, Im not closed minded either, I have several friends who are not american, in fact a lot of them are asian, I also have some gay friends, I dont judge them they can do what they want. Do I believe certain things that are questionable? Absolutely. Everyone has their boundaries at some point. No doubt, I think that if she wants to get fatter... she can... but if she needs medical attention she should have to pay for it entirely herself... no help from the government at all, If you decide to violate your body, some kind of repercussions need to be taken. Now I don't know what exactly... but still... you all get what im saying....


You don't get it - if this is her means of income, as an ENTERTAINER, she's in the same boat as anyone else who gets hurt over the course of time of performing their job. I'm sure I'll develop carpal tunnel at some point due to my desk jockey lifestyle. Her track to injury may be faster and more severe, but imagine other people that end up in the health care because they do something stupid or dangerous. There are too many comparisons to be made here - extreme athletes, those people that hang themselves from meathooks, if you run a skydiving school and your parachute doesn't open, etc...

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also, buy buying all that food, shes helping the economy. just saying.

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lol - you post some winner fucking points Mike :)

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jvaccaro6
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NYIntensity wrote:
jvaccaro6 wrote:
Dude bro,

If you think I'm close minded then you couldn't be more far off. I'm very open minded, in the fact that I have several gay friends, several immigrant friends, several friends that aren't your "typical" American. My mind is very closed off to the thinking that it's ok to abuse your body, and abuse your right to health care, simply because you choose to do it.

It's like people that abuse the freedom of speech, such as the one crazy church group that protests at Soldiers Funerals, and tragic sites. Sure they are protected, but they are 100% morally wrong. Same principle here. It's her every right to do it, but it's completely morally wrong to purposely injure yourself, and tack on an additional 500 pounds to your already obese frame, decline the use of obesity drugs, and purposely cripple yourself.

She has access to help that would allow her quality of life to improve, she simply chooses to ignore it, and go in the opposite direction. I personally have no gripe with people who wish to use the system to increase their quality of life, I do however take issue with people who are willing to cripple themselves by binge eating, and not caring who they become a burdon to.


"Dude bro"...really? Having gay friends doesn't make you open minded...it did 10 years ago - not any more. If by having immigrant friends you mean "illegal" immigrants, you're breaking the law. Technically, unless you're Native American, you're an immigrant too - just generations removed. Like I said before, we don't know that she's abusing her right to health care.

You think that bodybuilders aren't in the same boat as her? They abuse the shit out of their bodies to, to get "bigger". Issues that rise from steroids, joint problems, heart problems, manic depression, I can go on.

I suppose you could say what she's doing is immoral, and would call it 100% unethical if she's abusing the health care system. I think the issue you have here is that she doesn't share the same VALUES as you. She may be purposely injuring herself, but what if the only redemption she gets is seeing that there are people willing to pay to watch her eat? That they want to see a record broken or be part of breaking a record, and she can be that conduit? Do you think that's too far outside the realm of possibility, that she just wants to feel good about herself, and one way of doing that is eating? It's a disorder that's not always able to be cured.


Anything in excess is bad for you, I know that. As I should.

Damn right I have different values, and thats what I'm against. I also have different values against terrorism, animal cruelty, and genocide, than those that preform it. Does that make me close minded as well?

Define open mindedness. My perception of open mindedness is the ability to see things from a point of view different than your own. I can see peoples points from the other side, and take them into consideration. Doesn't mean I have to change mine.

I mean, calling me a closed minded individual because I have strong feelings over something; doesn't make me closed minded. It makes me opinionated.

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NYIntensity wrote:
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I agree as well. There are certain lines you don't cross and I think this is one of them. And just as well, Im not closed minded either, I have several friends who are not american, in fact a lot of them are asian, I also have some gay friends, I dont judge them they can do what they want. Do I believe certain things that are questionable? Absolutely. Everyone has their boundaries at some point. No doubt, I think that if she wants to get fatter... she can... but if she needs medical attention she should have to pay for it entirely herself... no help from the government at all, If you decide to violate your body, some kind of repercussions need to be taken. Now I don't know what exactly... but still... you all get what im saying....


You don't get it - if this is her means of income, as an ENTERTAINER, she's in the same boat as anyone else who gets hurt over the course of time of performing their job. I'm sure I'll develop carpal tunnel at some point due to my desk jockey lifestyle. Her track to injury may be faster and more severe, but imagine other people that end up in the health care because they do something stupid or dangerous. There are too many comparisons to be made here - extreme athletes, those people that hang themselves from meathooks, if you run a skydiving school and your parachute doesn't open, etc...



Real Entertainers... get paid a lot of money, they can take care of themselves...

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Rut - I agree, 100%.

Jay - I apologize for calling you closed minded - opinionated is a much better word :)

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i dont like what shes doing to herself either, but at the end of the day, its her life, her choices, and im not in the right to think shes not allowed to do what shes doing. i dont like abortion either, but i sure as fuck am not gonna tell a girl she shouldnt get one.

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jvaccaro6 wrote:
Soooo, let me get this straight. People are actually ok with this?

Fuck that, and here is why.

She's unemployed, except for her fatty.com site, and I can't imagine that provides great health insurance benefits.

Not to mention the fact she is voluntarily doing this to herself. It's not genetics, it's not a disease, it's a fucking hobby of hers to be obese.

So lets figure this out, she's from Jersey, which is bad enough as it is.

Fun numbers here:

Average Hospital ER Visit- $950 a pop
Average cost of treatment for obesity is roughly $1600/yr than that of a fit person, hell and over weight person only costs $250 more than a fit person per year.
Average cost to treat obesity- Roughly $1200 per year in drugs, not to mention various hospital stays, doctors visits, etc. Could run as much as $50,000 Per year.

Who do you think is getting stuck with that bill? Tax payers. Why? Because this fat fucking idiot thinks it's ok for her to binge eat all the junk she wants.

Fuck that, I hope she chokes on a burrito. I'm sick to my stomach after reading about her. And I'm even more disgusted that people actually subscribe to her site to watch her kill herself slowly with fast food, and her 9th bag of potato chips dipped in nacho cheese.


dont worry obamacare will take care of her... and the 5 EMTs that need to go on disability after injuring their backs trying to get her fat ass out of her home and into an ambulance, i mean flatbed

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ya know, she only gets one life to live, so she might as well do it her way. i dont approve of it, but ill be damned if i write her off as a waste of life and burden on society, and hope she asphyxiates herself because her norms dont conform with my own.

shes not hurting anyone but herself.


herself, her husband, her daughter (who probably wont have a mother to see her graduate high-school, and the 5 EMTs that are going to have to load her into an ambulance... i mean flatbed

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I dont see what you guys are arguing about she's probably gonna have a heart attack before this thread finishes


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I'm gonna be the worlds fattest man. I'm almost there, only about 1100 pounds to go to claim that title.

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This woman is a disgusting piece of crap. I have no respect for her. I feel bad for her kids when she dies soon. At least the world will be a better place when she's gone.


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gr8daygo wrote:
dont worry obamacare will take care of her... and the 5 EMTs that need to go on disability after injuring their backs trying to get her fat ass out of her home and into an ambulance, i mean flatbed


As a former EMT that had to do this more than once, I sort of relate to this sarcasm.


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Atleast she has goals.....

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