That's what I'm saying. These quotes and speeches are very polished. it's not lieing, its just selective speaking. It's like saying that cheerios aren't healthy because they give you 3% of your daily value of fat.

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That's very suspect, and no reason why the entire conversation wasn't included. I'm not 100% convinced that it's something just taken out of context, as I can't think of any context that 'control the people' would make sense in.

But let's be real. This is Andrew Breitbart's site we're talking about here. It's not exactly the most objective source out there. I also tend to discount anything the refers to the bill as 'Obamacare', as that's the term the misguided Tea Partiers use to describe the non-existent government takeover of the health care system.

I'm also not going to buy into some conspiracy theory that health care reform is some government conspiracy to control the population, if that's what your assertion of 'the truth' is.

Exactly.
What context would make that statement ok?

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Maybe a good comparison to this mandating would be the schooling mandate. I think you're pretty much forced to school your children.

...and we have public schools...
There's no mandate to send your kids to for-profit private schools.

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ok, then why are so many politicians against a public option?

I don't know. I'm just not going to jump to the conclusion that it is something nefarious.

Because it would have been political suicide...not that it matters now.

Democrats are going to get hammered in November either way...they should have just gone for it.

Instead they went with the mandate and no public offering. That's the fundamental flaw of this legislation.

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The general opposition to a public option is the belief that private insurance companies would not be able to compete with a government run health plan, and thus the private health insurance industry would collapse.

So because most of their constituents are too dumb to understand that a dollar given to your government for health care could be no different than a dollar spent privately, they chose the wrong plan? It sort of makes you wonder if giving everyone(including 70 IQ people) a vote is a good idea.

The disinformation around the public option is why the Tea Partiers started screaming about the government 'taking over their health care', and Sarah Palin / Betsy McCaughey started up their 'death panel' nonsense.

People don't want to look at things for themselves and decide if it's good or not. They just eat up whatever they're spoon fed.

You're not doing much to argue your point there Cross; if anything, that response makes me want to disregard the clip as nonsense even more.

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I'm not arguing a point at all.

I usually do the research when someone challenges like that but I'm just not interested today.
If someone else wants to get off their butt and find it, be my guest.

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"My constituents are too stupid to realize what's good for them" is exactly why they're getting tossed in November.

You should run for office.

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I'm not so sure that the Dems are going to get run in the mid-terms. We'll see, but I think that's up in the air at this point.

You know what the kicker in all of this mess is XC, certain Dem's are calling for extra security now that the deed is done and a "MAJORITY" yes, Majority of the country did not like this Bill, they are lashing out.

The Dem's went in all in and it is going to cost them heavily come November. I don't advocate violence but, in all seriousness, did the Dem's not see this backlash coming? I mean really, did they just decide to pass the Bill and expect all was going to be right with the world?

I just came out of several meetings this afternoon and this is the talk everyone on the business side anyways, is talking about. Small business's to boot. These aren't large employers here, and it was 100% agreed by all of these ladies and gentlemen at this meeting that its nothing short of an assualt on the constitution. Normally that wouldn't mean a whole lot, but the meeting was in Niagara Falls and almost 3/4 of those in attendance were Democrats LOL.

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Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

Even though it's true for both parties.

The average American IQ is around 100, yikes!

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Polls prior to the bill's passage showed that a majority of Americans supported the individual provisions of the bill, but if they were asked about the bill as a while, they did not. That didn't make sense then, and it doesn't make sense now.

Regardless of people's opinions on the bill, the violence is uncalled for and absurd, and I don't blame Dems for wanting protection from these nutcases that were outside the capital this week threatening our legislators and calling for the president to be assassinated.

Lets not forget Squanto, 1 mans nutcase is another man's Patriot. It works both ways, this is a highly contentious issue with longterm ramifications on the public as a whole. Some people will feel the need to lash out, it is wrong, but I can empathize with the way they feel.

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Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

I respect the fact that people may not like the bill. I respect that they may be angry about the effects of the bill, right or wrong.

I don't respect that they're throwing bricks through windows, spewing racial slurs, and posting the addresses of family members online and encouraging people to go "express their thanks" for someone's vote. That just happened to Rep. Tom Perriello's brother.