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PuckSniperPensel
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:45 pm 
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fly as hale wrote:
Why are there so many fans that want to separate Ryan Miller from this team? "Without Ryan Miller, we'd be an awful team." Okay. Well, we have Ryan Miller. Awesome. Moving on...


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Vanek_Fanatic_26
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:45 pm 
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I hate the "If we didn't have Miller arguments." That's exactly like saying if the Devils didn't have Brodeur, if the Red Wings never had Yzerman, if the Avalanche never had Patrick Roy/Joe Sakic. It's a moot point because the point is that those teams all DID have those players. Why argue something to be not there when in the end, that piece is there?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:06 pm 
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Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote:
I hate the "If we didn't have Miller arguments." That's exactly like saying if the Devils didn't have Brodeur, if the Red Wings never had Yzerman, if the Avalanche never had Patrick Roy/Joe Sakic. It's a moot point because the point is that those teams all DID have those players. Why argue something to be not there when in the end, that piece is there?

Because everyone needs to say that. it's a great point to argue.

But you're right, we have Miller, so yea, we still have him.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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powerplayer
PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:03 pm 
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The point is, ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs. Remember '99, when it was thought the Sabres were going nowhere that year? Does this team not seem like the '99 squad? Outside of Satan, we had no big goal scorers. All we had was some goalie named Hasek, and we all know what happened in the end.

Also, Do not give me that whole "this team needs an overhaul" bull. Why would we piss away all these building blocks we have in place? It is obvious this team is doing something right. You don't lead your division by chance. The Canadiens had a major overhaul, and they're doing great, aren't they? There is no need for an overhaul, just a piece here or there (say a RW and PP QB) to have this team being favorites every year. However, they can still challenge if they play consistent, hard working style hockey. That is what wins games, especially in the playoffs. We all know the current roster can do that, because we have seen them do that all season. We are not on top of the Northeast by some fluke, or by luck. They have struggled at some points, but this team is hungrier than I've seen them in two years. If they show up every game and stick to the system, they can go far.


Don't be so quick to blow off the idea of an overhaul. I know that many people who stare at those rankings would find the notion of an overhaul ridiculous, but some of your posts ironically, yet unintentionally, point this out. Rankings can be very deceiving when trying to identify trends and I'm more focued on trends going into the playoffs rather than a season average.

In reality, the most IMPORTANT issue going into the playoffs is "How have you been playing against playoff teams lately? THAT is what concerns me the most. They could've beat Tampa by 100 goals and I still would be concerned.

DO NOT take this stat lightly:
The Sabres have gone 6-12 against playoff teams since Jan 1st. That's 6-12. That is eerily reminiscent of the 06-07 team which finished with 113 pts and the President's Trophy. That team also played so well in the first half of the season, that it covered up the problems they had in the second half of the season.

Best-of-7s against higher quality opponents tend to flush these things out quickly.


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Squanto
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powerplayer wrote:
Rankings can be very deceiving when trying to identify trends and I'm more focued on trends going into the playoffs rather than a season average.


Such arguments are generally weak, simply because you can cherry pick a length of time to find a stat that fits the argument you're attempting to make.

You make the point that Buffalo isn't playing well against playoff teams. You're not wrong. However, have you bothered to compare that statistic against other teams in the league? The Penguins, for example, are .500 against playoff teams in March, and that's inflated with wins against free-falling Boston and Philly. How are other teams performing against other playoff teams? Is Buffalo doing better, worse, or about average?

Every team in the league is dealing with a compressed post Olympic schedule. Most of the league is playing close to .500 hockey, with a couple teams making runs, Detroit, Phoenix and Toronto being notable.


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Vanek_Fanatic_26
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:15 am 
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Squanto wrote:
powerplayer wrote:
Rankings can be very deceiving when trying to identify trends and I'm more focued on trends going into the playoffs rather than a season average.


Such arguments are generally weak, simply because you can cherry pick a length of time to find a stat that fits the argument you're attempting to make.

You make the point that Buffalo isn't playing well against playoff teams. You're not wrong. However, have you bothered to compare that statistic against other teams in the league? The Penguins, for example, are .500 against playoff teams in March, and that's inflated with wins against free-falling Boston and Philly. How are other teams performing against other playoff teams? Is Buffalo doing better, worse, or about average?

Every team in the league is dealing with a compressed post Olympic schedule. Most of the league is playing close to .500 hockey, with a couple teams making runs, Detroit, Phoenix and Toronto being notable.


Never thought of it that way. Interesting that we would never have to play any of these teams.

My number one fear about this team is their ability to play a possible 7-game series, let alone four of them. I feel like the experience is there, as most of these players have actually experienced the grind of a few playoff series.

Roy, Pominville, Grier, Miller, Connolly, Vanek, Hecht, Lalime, Tallinder, Lydman, Rivet, Mair, and Montador have all experienced the grind of at least one playoff series, and if I'm not mistaken, all of them have had more than one.

That fact alone comforts me a little, but only just a little.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:07 pm 
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Our team has enough playoff experience to deal with that. I think everyone on our team with the exception of maybe two or three players have never played in an NHL playoff series, those being Tim Kennedy and Tyler Myers and Kaleta(?), I don't know if he was still here in 06-07 when we made our run or not?

I'm not counting Gerbe, Mancari, or Ennis as I see all of them returned to Portland before the playoffs start.

I forgot about Sekera and Butler also.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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