Lol. I think I remember that post, and poster.

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I've been meaning to ask forever, criminallyvulgar, is that Natalie Portman in your avatar?

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"I can't really hear what Jeremy says, because I got my two Stanley Cup Rings plugging my ears...." -Patrick Roy in reference to Jeremy Roenick's trash talking

I think the GOP should be renamed the GGP.

The Grand Geriatric Party. Kind of the same thing...

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That statement was made in jest (If that wasn't clear)

I suppose it was my fault for thinking people can have any of these conversations and still access their sense of humor.

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Meh, I doubt the ability of a group of heterogenous people who have never met to have these discussions (or possibly any discussions) online, anonymously, (and more importantly, without the communication afforded by things like body language, tone of voice, eye contact, etc) without pissing people off or ever being a douche, even if they're just being misunderstood.

Fuckit, I love you guys and this place, and value our bond as Sabre Junkies more than any of the random religion/political/baby-eating threads. And really, it's not like we're actually settling or deciding anything, this is all sort of our collective sniping, bitching, arguing, mental masturbation. So, sorry for all offense, quasi-intended or not.

Even for people who know each other very well it's almost impossible to talk about sensitive subjects without pissing people off, being a douche, or saying something that is misunderstood. I often I think it is possible to have this kind of discussion over the internet, or at least somewhat possible.

This Politics sub-forum was a terrible idea. All people do is start up threads wherein they chest-beat about their beliefs after putting up a link to a story or whatever, and then people of the opposing view come in and it gets stupid (or worse, ugly).

This sub-forum should be killed with fire and then nuked from orbit - it's the only way to be sure this breeding ground for animosity and flaming goes away forever.

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I think the idea was fine, but in practice there is a lot of what you describe: chest-beating, stereo-typing, and people talking at each other instead of to each other.

However that doesn't mean that I agree it should be closed. I disagree with Crosscheck on a multitude of issues, but I still respect him and consider him a friend. Granted there are others I might not have the same respect for, but there are people whose opinions about the Sabres I don't respect too. You gotta have some give and take i think. And I don't know if you all have noticed, but I tend to just stay out of the politics forum these days because I find the "discussions" so devoid of merit. And I love to debate.

Point is I don't think we need to scrap the political forum just because it doesn't always run smoothly. We need to learn from the problems and make the threads better for that effort. If that doesn't happen, I'll just keep avoiding threads I find unworthy of my mental efforts.

I like to think of this sub-forum as a litter box.
It's best to keep all the shit contained in one place

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A rename of the sub forum, instead of Politics, how about, The Turd Collector?

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Lord Stanley's Cup is what its all about.
Mr. Pegula, your destiny awaits you sir.

I second this proposal

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"I can't really hear what Jeremy says, because I got my two Stanley Cup Rings plugging my ears...." -Patrick Roy in reference to Jeremy Roenick's trash talking

Comedians kind of straddle that line sometimes. Miller is a regular on Bill O, and it's no secret Leary wants to bang Lou. Saying "they're just comedians" is like saying Bill Maher isn't political. Even comedians have opinions, and I just found it a bit alarming that Miller kind of does think along the lines of his comedy. He just adds flair to make the dough.

As for this sub-forum being a fail? That's one way to look at it. Another way of looking at it is that people who enjoy discussing issues can(insert "lured into coming in" comment here). In another respect I think it draws some people closer, and fosters respect. Many times you'll find people being nicer here than in hockey threads. I think it's great people understand where the line is, and they stay behind it. It shows respect and maturity.

I never had an issue with the political subforum, or any subforum so long as it remains fairly moderated.

I actually thought it was a good idea to split the mods with an equal number of conservative and liberal moderators, but that pendulum never seems to want to stay in the middle.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

1. it was an online poll so I consider it pretty much without merit...it's not a random sample.
2. It was a poll of all adults, NOT just Republicans.

http://news.harrisinteractive.com/profi ... egory=1777


42% of Independents and 14% of Democrats think He is a socialist.
39% of Independents and 17% of Democrats say He wants to take away Americans' right to own guns.
29% of Independents and 15% of Democrats think He is a Muslim.
28% of Independents and 12% of Democrats think he wants to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to a one world government.

And those are the people that voted for him....Oooooo scary

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

This was a random internet poll....did you see the whopping disclaimer attached to the thing?
They even selectively sampled after it was complete.

I think a whole lot of people are pissed off because the we're at a very tenuous crossroads in this country. Despair and unemployment are running high and there's a very real feeling on both sides that our elected officials aren't listening to their constituents.

People were just as pissed off with the passage of every other Democratic big government giveaway.

I say good. They should be pissed off.

EDIT: Hell, I'll demonize the President. Not because of his race or some stupid imaginary reason like he may be a Muslim, but because he doesn't represent me and I believe he's doing tangible harm to the country.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

Oh I don't know...I've never voted for someone because they promised to give me a bigger part of the government pie.
However my neighbors do and they outnumber me.
I'm currently represented....down to the damn school board...100% by Democrats and I think 1 registered Socialist.

I personally take no responsibility for the hijinx going on right now and I have every right to be vocally opposed to it.

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Voters need to start voting selfish. If everyone voted for who they feel would give them the most personal benefit, we'd have politicians in office that would best represent the people.

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