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daz28
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Rutledge222 wrote:
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What's worse....Bricks through campaign office windows of Democrats because they voted for the bill or bullets through campaign office windows of Republicans because they didn't?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03 ... overnight/


Neither are worse. They're both shit.



Down here where I live I guess some representative was in town and when he was at the town hall a shit load of protesters came out and started throwing bricks through the town hall's windows... crazy shit...

Tea-partiers?

Seriously, if these people are only against abortion and wasting loot, then the wars in Iraq(lives and tax dollars) should have had them off the couch, and done watching cartoons a long time ago. This ain't even a Bushie bash, but every president has wasted money. These same people probably hated the balanced budget guy, cuz he got his willie licked.


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daz28 wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Squanto wrote:
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What's worse....Bricks through campaign office windows of Democrats because they voted for the bill or bullets through campaign office windows of Republicans because they didn't?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03 ... overnight/


Neither are worse. They're both shit.



Down here where I live I guess some representative was in town and when he was at the town hall a shit load of protesters came out and started throwing bricks through the town hall's windows... crazy shit...

Tea-partiers?

Seriously, if these people are only against abortion and wasting loot, then the wars in Iraq(lives and tax dollars) should have had them off the couch, and done watching cartoons a long time ago. This ain't even a Bushie bash, but every president has wasted money. These same people probably hated the balanced budget guy, cuz he got his willie licked.



nah it wasnt them... well it could be some of them... but they werent saying that they were the tea partiers they just said the people of the town were protesting and throwing the bricks through the windows.

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Tea-partiers?

Seriously, if these people are only against abortion and wasting loot, then the wars in Iraq(lives and tax dollars) should have had them off the couch, and done watching cartoons a long time ago. This ain't even a Bushie bash, but every president has wasted money. These same people probably hated the balanced budget guy, cuz he got his willie licked.

*sigh*

1. AFAIK the tea party people are about taxation and small government...why the hell would you bring up abortion? Try to focus your rage.
2. Clinton didn't balance the budget or create a surplus...because, you know...Presidents don't write budgets. That was Newt Gingrich and the Republican majority. As a matter of fact, the only part of the contract with America that didn't pass was a balanced budget amendment.

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Crosscheck wrote:
*sigh*

1. AFAIK the tea party people are about taxation and small government...why the hell would you bring up abortion? Try to focus your rage.
2. Clinton didn't balance the budget or create a surplus...because, you know...Presidents don't write budgets. That was Newt Gingrich and the Republican majority. As a matter of fact, the only part of the contract with America that didn't pass was a balanced budget amendment.

Ya cross, you're right, presidents have no power when it comes to legislature???? lol. Think again.

Can I still hate tea partiers even though 7% of them are for abortion?


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daz28 wrote:
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*sigh*

1. AFAIK the tea party people are about taxation and small government...why the hell would you bring up abortion? Try to focus your rage.
2. Clinton didn't balance the budget or create a surplus...because, you know...Presidents don't write budgets. That was Newt Gingrich and the Republican majority. As a matter of fact, the only part of the contract with America that didn't pass was a balanced budget amendment.

Ya cross, you're right, presidents have no power when it comes to legislature???? lol. Think again.

Can I still hate tea partiers even though 7% of them are for abortion?[/quote]

Only if you're also willing to hate tree-hugging, liberal hippy douchebags who would like to give more and more of what real people make to lazy, scumbag, waste's of life whose only idea of work is sticking their hand out to get their social welfare program handouts.

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:

Only if you're also willing to hate tree-hugging, liberal hippy douchebags who would like to give more and more of what real people make to lazy, scumbag, waste's of life whose only idea of work is sticking their hand out to get their social welfare program handouts.


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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:

Only if you're also willing to hate tree-hugging, liberal hippy douchebags who would like to give more and more of what real people make to lazy, scumbag, waste's of life whose only idea of work is sticking their hand out to get their social welfare program handouts.


Ferret?

Why do some people equate being on the left with loving to give free stuff to the lazy? I think your missing the fact that some people are just bad, and they spoil good ideas. That doesn't mean that you completely scratch the idea. You implement it, and then iron out the flaws. No one said getting the system right will be easy, or it wouldn't take time.


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Personally, I have no issue with the idea of drug testing those on welfare/food stamps.

I don't really know how those things work, but I think limiting them to healthy purchases or something like that might not be a bad idea either.

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Personally, I have no issue with the idea of drug testing those on welfare/food stamps.

I don't really know how those things work, but I think limiting them to healthy purchases or something like that might not be a bad idea either.


Agree.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Personally, I have no issue with the idea of drug testing those on welfare/food stamps.

I don't really know how those things work, but I think limiting them to healthy purchases or something like that might not be a bad idea either.

So, ummm, ya, ok, I can see this playing out already.

Umm, so Earnie and Tracy, you've given your blood samples and THEY CAME BACK FUCKIN POSITIVE FOR DRUG USE,


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slesh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Personally, I have no issue with the idea of drug testing those on welfare/food stamps.

I don't really know how those things work, but I think limiting them to healthy purchases or something like that might not be a bad idea either.

So, ummm, ya, ok, I can see this playing out already.

Umm, so Earnie and Tracy, you've given your blood samples and THEY CAME BACK FUCKIN POSITIVE FOR DRUG USE,


NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!


Or you're not elligible for food stamps because you tested positive for heroin.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
slesh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Personally, I have no issue with the idea of drug testing those on welfare/food stamps.

I don't really know how those things work, but I think limiting them to healthy purchases or something like that might not be a bad idea either.

So, ummm, ya, ok, I can see this playing out already.

Umm, so Earnie and Tracy, you've given your blood samples and THEY CAME BACK FUCKIN POSITIVE FOR DRUG USE,


NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!


Or you're not elligible for food stamps because you tested positive for heroin.


Well that rules me out, I love me some smack

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
Ya cross, you're right, presidents have no power when it comes to legislature???? lol. Think again.

Yes.
Their power is limited to signing or vetoing it.

Are you implying Newt Gingrich made a career of passing budgets written by Bill Clinton?
Because, well, I wouldn't know what to say to that.
Republicans controlled both the house and the Senate at the time.

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Crosscheck wrote:
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Ya cross, you're right, presidents have no power when it comes to legislature???? lol. Think again.

Yes.
Their power is limited to signing or vetoing it.

Are you implying Newt Gingrich made a career of passing budgets written by Bill Clinton?
Because, well, I wouldn't know what to say to that.
Republicans controlled both the house and the Senate at the time.

Not at all, I'm saying that their seat of power(highest in the legislative branch) has INFLUENCE. If you don't believe me, check the health-care vote. A strong president gets what he wants. If you want to be technical, their power lies in sign or veto, but we all know the influence in huge if he's strong enough. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to take any credit away from anyone(Newt or the repub. Congress).


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daz28 wrote:
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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
Ya cross, you're right, presidents have no power when it comes to legislature???? lol. Think again.

Yes.
Their power is limited to signing or vetoing it.

Are you implying Newt Gingrich made a career of passing budgets written by Bill Clinton?
Because, well, I wouldn't know what to say to that.
Republicans controlled both the house and the Senate at the time.

Not at all, I'm saying that their seat of power(highest in the legislative branch) has INFLUENCE. If you don't believe me, check the health-care vote. A strong president gets what he wants. If you want to be technical, their power lies in sign or veto, but we all know the influence in huge if he's strong enough. That's all I'm saying. Not trying to take any credit away from anyone(Newt or the repub. Congress).


I cannot help it....everytime someone brings up Newt Gingrich, this is what I picture, a talking verison of this.......

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daz28 wrote:
Not at all, I'm saying that their seat of power(highest in the legislative branch) has INFLUENCE.

Except that...you know...the President isn't part of the legislative branch at all.
That would be the Executive branch ;)

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Crosscheck wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Not at all, I'm saying that their seat of power(highest in the legislative branch) has INFLUENCE.

Except that...you know...the President isn't part of the legislative branch at all.
That would be the Executive branch ;)


Well, Bush and Obama both would lead most intelligent Americans to think that the Legislative Branch was at the beck and call of whatever the President wants

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
Well, Bush and Obama both would lead most intelligent Americans to think that the Legislative Branch was at the beck and call of whatever the President wants

Since they both had a Democratic legislature that doesn't speak very well of the Democrats backbone now does it?

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Note at all friend, not at all....

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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
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daz28 wrote:
Not at all, I'm saying that their seat of power(highest in the legislative branch) has INFLUENCE.

Except that...you know...the President isn't part of the legislative branch at all.
That would be the Executive branch ;)


Well, Bush and Obama both would lead most intelligent Americans to think that the Legislative Branch was at the beck and call of whatever the President wants

Funny as this sounds, I thought of this after I left the house, but while not officially a part of the legislative branch, he still gets to vote yes/no on all legislature. I would certainly say that is an important part of the LEGISLATIVE process(the word I should have used). Anyways, kneegrow made the point I wanted to anyways. The influence is ridiculous, which imo disrupts the balance of the system. Their power is veto, yet the seem to control the voting too. That's scary.


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