Hey Zilla, since he's from your neck of the woods can you tell me what the hell is wrong with this guy?
(That's a serious question, I know little about him)




http://www.teapartypatriotslive.com/201 ... t-meeting/

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So what the hell do you call that nonsense?

Your Congressman may have wit and balls but he has no manners or tact.

Did he think doing this would help him in some way? I suppose he wasn't counting on youtube.

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Private citizens acting like assholes and disrupting meetings is one thing...a congressman doing it is another.

I don't really care either way, but he's not helping his cause with behavior like that.

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Actually Cross, I like this guy. He's passionate atleast. I loved his "Republicans Health Care Plan, Just Die" speech. If for no other reason than he had the balls to do it. I may not support the mandate portion of the legislation at all, but still, you have to admit inside yourself, it was nice to see a guy calling it what it was. I LMAO when I saw him pull that stunt.

Of course, I do not approve of him attempting to verbally muscle around an opposing groups meeting, that was low, even by his standards. But he does make for great political entertainment as far as personalities go.
I would love to see him go face to face with Ron Paul. Dr. Paul would pull out the Constitution and Grayson would be speechless, he couldn't answer the core question of show me where it says in this document that the government should do this. Grayson would fumble and stutter on the answer or he would be forced to show his true colors.

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Grayson has a degree from Harvard Law, a masters in public policy from the JFK School of Government at Harvard, and a PhD in government from the same school.

No disrespect to Dr. Paul, who I do share some positions with, but I'm pretty sure that Grayson would shred him in any Constitutional law debate.

BFD, George W. Bush has degrees from Yale and Harvard Business.
High levels of education != intelligence or in this case, manners.

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That's a fair point, but I think that even though Grayson has shown over time that he does know what he's talking about, even in light of some of his ill timed outbursts.

I have no idea what prompted this, but it takes balls to do something so over the top dramatic like he did.

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Paranoia.

His main beef was a person affiliated with the GOP attended a meeting or "Organizing for America" which is a euphemism for Obama's fund raising machine.

He was accusing Republicans of "spying".

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No disrespect here intended Squanto, but, every time I hear someone quote any type of higher education, especially from Ivy League Institutions, I have to laugh seriously. If any one actually believes that going to one of these academic arenas over other institutions or over a blue collar guy (such as myself and many other successful business and political individuals) gives this man any leg up is just sadly mistaken.

Its all about perception and interpretation. It has nothing to do with an academic credential on ones resume.
Some people interpret the Constitution and what America means as a nation one way, others preceive it in another, but by no means does attending Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia...etc...etc....give any individual a leg up on another. This has been false since day one in my view and has actually led to the current divide in the nation. We are not, nor have been, nor should we ever view an individuals educational experience with regards to where they attended academia as some type of higher elevation for government representation. That smacks of elitism and of an aristocracy class, this country was founded on the very principal that this notion was nonsense and actually did not work. And, in point of fact, it didn't.

I think the larger picture, in its simplist form, is always to remember that the "lower social class" or those not educated at these prime institutions far out number the elitest. And as always, we have shown our selves more than capable of handling the situation as well as taking those who use academic standards as a way to show they are above the rest what we think of that.

God Bless this great nation for allowing the little guys a chance to succeed and sticking it to the smug elitist cast who have proven time and again for over 100 year now that they can fuck up a wet dream with the best of em.

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My only point was that Ron Paul would not eviscerate Grayson in a constitutional debate. He's well versed in constitutional law and theory.

This is where that different way of looking at things comes into play, perception and interpretation I was speaking of.
I look at Dr. Pauls age (lifetime experience, what he's seen, his years of service representing the people, his view of things) then I look at Grayson's experiences in lifetime. It really is no comparison to be made in this case in my view, its all a matter of ideology at the end of the day, regardless of who has the education as opposed to that individual that has a wealth of actual lifetime experience living it.

I happen to be skewed and entrenched firmly with Dr. Paul. Like you though Squanto, I don't have a reflective view of all of his policies, I have just found him to be the one person out of any I have seen in my lifetime in Washington that adheres closest to the original intent of the founders.

I see no hope for this nation unfortunately, I have had first hand experience with both Federal and State government and I can tell you honestly right here and now, things are not what you preceive them to be, I'll tell ya what, pay to play is the name of the game. That doesn't sound like the intent of the founders nor the document they constructed called the Constitution.

I haven't seen that from the Repubs, not to say it isn't there but just that I have not yet experienced it with them. But the Dems are down right extortationists. Its much easier to do business in Republican held areas as opposed to Democratic ones. And this is a fact that I have witnessed first hand.

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