Actually, it was VS announcers. They stated they attempted to contact the organization, all they said was it was his right leg, not his left leg. And the announcer then stated it was most likely his knee where the chop occured.

My point on screaming it (CAPS) was to emphasize to those that say shit like "do you play hockey, these injuries happen all the time and it wasn't an intent to injure" that this statement is pure bullshit, considering this particular announcer ACTUALLY PLAYED THE GAME AT THE NHL LEVEL!!!

Don't worry Phil, I'll get it out of my system the moment a Bruins player is on the ice with an injury deserving of retribution.

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If you've played hockey at any competitive level and taken hacks all over the body you would understand. Obviously your just a fan on the couch who calls for suspensions on meaningless plays. TAKE OFF THE HOMER GLASSES.

Also did u say the announcer was just guessing as to what the injury was since the only confirmation he got was right leg and nothing more.

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At least a garden variety hack would have been aimed at a stick, or an ankle.

That thing was aimed right at the knee, plain and simple. It's not an obvious attempt to injure, but after all his kvetching about Myers the other night, it makes you wonder.

Easy kids, we don't even know if the hack caused the injury ffs.

...and yes, saying "if you ever played hockey, you'd know" is a smug comment.

I see where sabresEH is coming from on this, honestly. I never called for a suspension on Boychuk, but rather I've been calling for him to get an utter ass-whuppin.

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Well fuck have anyone of you played? None of you have answered that. I've played for 15 years some at recreational levels and some at competitive levels. I've been hacked all over, I've been hit from behind hell I've foughten Indians a good 6 inches taller. I've played this game, I love this game and I am fucking proud to love a team as much as I love the sabres. But I'll take off my homer glasses and call this as I see it. It's nothing more than a hack. NO INTENT TO INJURE.

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I'm sure Kaleta Torres and Grier have been told too. But that's where it ends. There should be no suspension or anything.

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Shoving a defenseless player into the boards shows no intent to injure?? Don't know what glasses you got on tonight, but maybe you're an expert on glasses too, and could inform us??

Edit: oh ya, I've played hockey, not anything serious, but my argument isn't if the hack was that dirty, but the shove.

Take a deep breath man.

You make a good point, however you really undermine yourself when you say that anyone who has never played anything more than bar league and pickup games wouldn't understand.

Frankly, in my view, nobody's opinion holds any more water unless they were paid to play the game.

Well it doesn't seem like it. Not one hockey analyst has questioned this play yet 50 people sitting in front of a computer screen are? All those hockey analyst's have played the game at the highest level and not one of them is questioning this hit.
And I'm not saying peple can't understand. I'm just saying why the fuck aren't you people understanding that this is nothing more than a simple hack. A play we have seen millions of times. In the Olympics all the Americans on here hated Boyle for his slew foot saying how dirty it was and how he shouldn't even be allowed to play. Next game Bobby Ryan does the exact same thing and the US fans turn the other cheek.
Whether you've played or haven't just recognize the fact that your only upset because of the outcome. This play wasn't suspendable, there was no intent to injure, and as a player who has played for years I can see that. Can any of you?

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I don't think the play was worthy of a suspension.

However, it was more than a garden variety hack from behind. It was deliberately aimed at the knee. In my mind, there's no question about it. Even if he goes for the ankle, a place where I think it's more common to aim at, it's not bad. The knee is another different animal.

You also might not want to generalize. There were plenty of folks around here that thought Ryan's play was just as dirty as Boyle's.

With all due respect, I disagree that the play was a 'simple hack'. It wasn't enough to warrant a suspension, but I can't agree that it was a run of the mill play. Chopping someone on the side of the knee from behind is not a common play at all, at any level.

i get sabresehs angle. sometimes people are blinded by their teams favourite colours and cant see what it really is.

i saw the replays, i felt he went for the puck, but thats a pretty nasty slash either way. you can see vaneks knee kinda gives. suspension? no, it was an accident, i THINK. so accidentally smash chara till hes handsome. problem solved.

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ok, so if I 'routinely' punch someone in the face, everyone will ignore the fact I kneed him in the face on his way down? This dude practically threw a guy who's knee he just stunned into the boards, he will miss considerable time. My fucking argument is legit, and all this, "you never took a routine hack" bs if for the birds.

Yes I know Squanto. There were a lot of people who agreed about the Bobby Ryan thing. But there were homers saying otherwise. I apologize that was irrelevant. However I have to disagree with the ankle knee thing. You have way more padding around the knee than the ankle. That's why players go for the ankle. And the back of the legs. But the pants, knees, and shins are very well protected. Much more than the ankles. If he wanted to hurt he would have gone for the ankle. See Bobby Clarke 1972.
But I do agree that the knee is not a simple hack. That is an unlikely target and one you would go to if you wanted them to feel it more.

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Your twisting my words a bit but that's alright. I smoked my joint I'm in a calmer place. But you my friend are acting as if Boychuk had this thing planned out. It's a fast game and he made fast choices. Went for the hack, went to finish the check(its playoff hockey), both men fall and Thomas gets the worst of it being in front.

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Well, I had to smoke to chill too(mostly from Vanek not the debate), but I just don't want the 'finishing' aspect to be overlooked. As I said, one injury LED to the other. You'd think he'd have been ok with the slash to stun w/o the boarding. It's like fish in a barrel. Maybe the playoffs got the best of his emotions, but he certainly deserves an ass whipping for his momentary lapse of reason. If he had a history, I'd suspend him.

Just giving me 2 cents on what i saw... I have never played.... although I have a pretty extensive orthopedic background.... If you watch the play in slow motion... you can easily see where the hack occurs... you can plainly see TV's right knee buckle, in (pushed medially).... at the point of the hack... I don't care what equipment he has on, the knee is NOT supposed to go left to right and it doesn't take much force to blow a knee out when its slightly bent and a side force is applied.... exactly the hit TV took... the least damage would be a sprain of the MCL or LCL and obviously the worst could be multiple ligament issues....

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So then this is best case scenario, right? I mean it has to be better than damage from an abrupt stop(hitting the boards). The forces are so much less from the hack...??

right?

Ohnoes:

Participation Status
Return to activity is dependant on the severity of the MCL sprain. Progression through rehab along with pain levels will also determine when an athlete is permitted to return to participation. An athlete should be functionally tested to make sure drills such as cutting and pivoting will not cause further injury. With a grade I MCL sprain, athletes will return to full play after up to 10- 14. Grade II MCL sprains will keep athletes out of play for about 3 weeks and grade III sprains will keep athletes out for an average of 5 weeks. Each athlete is different with progression and if progression is slow, re-evaluation for other injuries is necessary.

I'm having trouble understanding the bolded part. If you mean what I think you mean and that your asking me would he have been ok if it was just a hack and no falling into the boards? The answer is yes imo. It would have stung and he may have gone to the dressing rom for attn but he would have been back. If you meant something else please explain.

PS I didnt need the joint for the debate, I needed the joint for the second period of canucks kings.
Not that it really matters lol but I didn't wanna seem liek the idiot who needed to col down from a pointless interent debate you know what i mean.

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I'm no medical expert or anything close to knowing what I'm talking abut in that regards but I think when he would get slashed his entire leg would move to soften the blow. Also it's not necessarily his knee moving but more his knee pad.

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