the anterior ligament is in the front. the posterior is in the back. and they said he lost an edge. bull shit. when you're knee is forced down you go down. it is easier to break the ligaments from the back though as the patella protects the front a bit.

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Ok, I might as well jump into this fracas. Boychuk hack was bullshit and definitely caused him to loose control and slam into the boards. I initially thought it was his right knee also but after watching the video, it definitely was his left he was favoring. I can only assume that his left knee slammed into the boards first with his and shitbags weight. Boychuk did not have to follow Vanek into the boards. He should have disengaged when he realized that Vanek was on his way down, but he didn't. I don't think he intended to injure, but he did nothing to avoid it either.

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There's more respect in the league now then there has ever been. People talk about how they used to respect each back in the day without the instigator. Really? Hitting each other in the heads with your sticks is respect. These players go to other players weddings and off season events. Charity golf games and what not. You think 20 years ago guys whould accept an invitation to go and play golf with a guy from another team. Boychuk wasn't intending to injure. And two handing someone is fair. Thats why you see about one hundred slashes a game go uncalled.

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Eh

Sweet, I've been looking for a way to be a huge dick in inline with a clear conscience.

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Its all legal in playoff hockey baby. Also if you wanna be a dick its more effective to go for hundreds of love taps throughout an entire game rather than one big slash.

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Eh

I hate Boston. This is all their fault, the fucks.

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Yes, but that wasn't a simple tap either, that was a clear full blown slash/hack to the right knee/thigh area.

That is not acceptable in any league. Why it was called hooking I don't know, it was a clear slash and Boychuk should have been given 5 and a game misconduct for that.

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Because before the hack, he hooked Vanek and got called for it. Didn't watch the video, didja?

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mechaphil

When did he hook him, because he hacked him and not hooked.

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Did I type the words "Before the hack, he hooked Vanek" or am I really fucking high?

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Yea I see it now for sure, went and watched it, I didn't catch that the first time I saw it.

But you could be really high also

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You think a thug two handing a star in the knee is fair play ?? The only thing that kept Gretzky on the ice in LA was the threat of Marty McSorley carving you up like a thanksgiving turkey..

Modern NHL is bullshit,stars are falling to thugs more that they ever have..Plus the Sabres being such a pussy team,they will always run everyone on our team that is worth anything..I can't believe with a coach like Ruff and the way he played, we have a bench so full of pussies..

Thank the instigator rule.

I'm pissed and frustrated that the Sabres have to, yet again, overcome injuries to their best players. I have refrained from commenting for 24 hours so that I could post with a clear head.

Boychuk's hack was basically the same as Ovechkin's hit to Campbell. He didn't cause the injury, but he caused the crash into the boards that caused the injury. Either way it was a dangerous and dirty play. We don't normally comment on hacks like that because normally they don't send players into the boards at near full speed and cause a serious injury. This one did, and yet again an NHL team has to suffer through the most important part of their season without one of their best players because of a play that should not happen. That is a play that deserves discipline just like Ovechkin's play, because sending a player into the boards at near full speed is reckless.

Trying to say that "it was just a slash that didn't cause the ankle injury" is like saying, "I just pushed him on the shoulder, it wasn't my fault he fell over the ledge and died on the ground because I didn't even touch him where his bones were broken".

Sending players crashing into the boards is dangerous, plain and simple, and that type of play should be subject to discipline. This type of play should be an easier issue for the league, since Boychuk actually did commit a penalty (two actually) in the process. But it will fall into the "oh by the way" category, and another player that the league should want on the ice during it's showcase time of year will be gone and seriously hurt that team's chances of winning.

This opinion has nothing to do with being a Sabres fan either. It just makes it hurt more after the injuries to Miller and Vanek that assisted in keeping them out of the playoffs last year. As for other players stepping up, this is always a nice way for people to sound tough, resilient, and unaccpeting of excuses. That stuff is good up until a point. When teams are missing three top forwards (ok not really Stafford, but whatever), the replacements can try their damndest with their best effort, but those replacements can't make themselves become as talented as the starters. It's just not possible, so just like Boston is worse off without Savard, Buffalo is worse off without Hecht, Stafford (sort of), and now without a doubt Vanek.

There is no way to replace that level of talent and goal production, and Buffalo has had their chances of success diminished yet again because of reckless and dirty plays. It happens all around the league, not enough is done about it, and it pisses me off.

It was when Boychuk fell on top of Vanek which caused the injury, you can see Boychuk's knee in between the leg and the foot twist when Boychuk goes down.

He caused the injury by following through with Vanek falling down also.

What we need to be thankful for is Vanek was walking on it after the game, yes in a boot, but still walking so it's not a terrible sprain.

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Johnny Boychuk is a thug? Holy fuck figure it out the hack didn't hurt him it would have left a mark for sure and stung but its a play we've all seen before. And if u haven't seen it before you should watch more hockey. Fuck honestly I'd be more concerned if he slashed the wrist. So easy to break the wrist with a slash. There's no protection there.

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still a shitty play two handing the knee when Vanek has pulling away..Boychuk knew what ever he was going to do was a penalty because Vanek burned him on the play...So why not hook the man down like 95% of other D men would have done..

The knee slash set this injury into motion,and was a brutal one at that,the side of the knee is not well protected and you can see his knee cave when it was hit..

But ...whats done is done I guess..I seen on the news today that Vanek may be back sooner than we think and Ruff said he was surprised,he thought the injury would be allot worse..

Kinda funny though the goggle adds right below I'm typing have 2 for knee pain treatment lol

lol that is ironic.
The knee is a well protected area. The side of the knee a little less but still better protected than the wrist, or ankle(unless they use ankle guards). I agree that it's a place to go to make the guy feel it, but there are other more accesible areas to slash that will cause more damage, and boychuk had the option to go for those areas and didn't.

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Eh

The only other spot he could have reached and caused real damage would be the face, and that's too obvious.

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