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Squanto
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:51 pm 
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I could live with that scenario.


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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Not sure why people are saying we're "STUCK" with Roy.

He's one of the best 2nd line centers in the league, and he plays both sides of the puck very well.

Find somebody to replace Connolly and play a first line center position, and that Roy contract would look awesome.


I look at Roy's playoffs numbers and they suck. If he only shows up in the playoffs I would like him but he doesn't show up

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The real question for me is whether Connolly was inured or not, he was CLEARLY no effective in this series. Why did he continue to get so many minutes? Power play, penalty kill, even strength. Every time you looked, you saw Connolly hovering somewhere on the ice not competing for the puck or giving it away when he did touch it. His blind toss around the boards to nobody on the power play is the thing of legend.

He needed to be benched as did most of the regulars on the power play by Game 6. Lindy should have put out Kaleta, Mair, McCormick, Gerbe, Ennis, and Grier as his power play forwards. Before you laugh, how could they have done worse?? Not only were our power play units not scoring, they were giving up two on ones like it was their job!

Back to my original point though, somebody has to be responsible for Connolly's poor play in this series and it has to be Lindy for continuing to put him out in all situations.


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The real question for me is whether Connolly was inured or not, he was CLEARLY no effective in this series. Why did he continue to get so many minutes? Power play, penalty kill, even strength. Every time you looked, you saw Connolly hovering somewhere on the ice not competing for the puck or giving it away when he did touch it. His blind toss around the boards to nobody on the power play is the thing of legend.

He needed to be benched as did most of the regulars on the power play by Game 6. Lindy should have put out Kaleta, Mair, McCormick, Gerbe, Ennis, and Grier as his power play forwards. Before you laugh, how could they have done worse?? Not only were our power play units not scoring, they were giving up two on ones like it was their job!

Back to my original point though, somebody has to be responsible for Connolly's poor play in this series and it has to be Lindy for continuing to put him out in all situations.


He wasn't hurt. He and Ruff both said so after game 6.

Connolly was just bad.

But you can't stop playing your top center in the playoffs. You can't. You have to put them out there and hope they respond.

While we went 0-19 on the Power Play, don't forget we hit quite a few posts in the process.

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The entire problem with this team is that we're stuck them in roles they weren't ready to take when they took them. Roy went from 3rd liner to first liner in the matter of one summer. Vanek has the same problem, but he seems to have adjusted well enough. Connolly is a career second line center that's stuck on the first line due to lack of talent at the position. If the Sabres picked up another playmaking center (something like Savard) I'd feel a ton better about this team.

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I don't care how many posts were hit. 0 goals in 19 chances. You can't do worse. Has any team ever done worse? Just think about the true impact of those numbers. Boston had one less player on the ice for nearly 40 minutes (two full periods) and the Sabres could not score once. And Connolly was the major culprit. He himself would kill off 30 seconds by stick handling before gently handing the puck to the other team. Happened at least five times over the course of the series.


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I don't care how many posts were hit. 0 goals in 19 chances. You can't do worse. Has any team ever done worse? Just think about the true impact of those numbers. Boston had one less player on the ice for nearly 40 minutes (two full periods) and the Sabres could not score once. And Connolly was the major culprit. He himself would kill off 30 seconds by stick handling before gently handing the puck to the other team. Happened at least five times over the course of the series.


I'm not making excuses.

I'm saying that was the good reason for Lindy not to pull him off the power play.

They knocked on the door quite a bit, but couldn't bust it down.

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Just let Connolly play out the contract and trade him at the deadline. He has value and to buy him out and get nothing in return would be horrible business. Buying him out makes no sense. Especially when this team is already tight on money.

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Just let Connolly play out the contract and trade him at the deadline. He has value and to buy him out and get nothing in return would be horrible business. Buying him out makes no sense. Especially when this team is already tight on money.


I repeat myself.

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I'm not normally a fan of the player buyout, but I think that if you can't move Tim this off-season, a buyout is a reasonable option.


I advocate trying to move him. If you can't, then buy him out and get someone else in here.

It's absolutely NOT horrible business. For starters, you're SAVING money. When you buy a player out, you pay him LESS than the remaining value of his contract. Secondly, horrible business is continuing to do something when you know it's not working. Admitting a mistake, cutting your losses, and moving on is actually quite a good business practice.


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Connolly was slow and Ruff skipped several of his shifts early in the series. I suppose his foot was not broken anymore, but with one practice before the playoffs after missing nine games is CLEARLY not being at 100%. Missing Hecht and playing with linemates that can't forecheck against a physical team didn't help either. He certainly needed to play better though, he was without a doubt one of at least three players that didn't come through at all.

I still can't think that buying him out should be an option though. All season he played a good two way game while playing both PP and PK. He would've been the points leader if not for the foot injury. He's not, and probably never will be the player we hoped for before the concussion, but he's the best center we have for now. I would try to keep him and still upgrade the center position if possible, but just dumping him isn't much of a help to the team.


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No reason to buy him out anyways, he has one year left on his contract and that is next year. Why buyout a player with one year just to have however much left for a year he wouldn't even be on the team anymore.

We deal with him, we either keep him or deal him to get rid of the entire contract at once. When he becomes a UFA you let him walk then.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Why buyout a player with one year just to have however much left for a year he wouldn't even be on the team anymore.


To have $3M more money to spend on a player to replace him.


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Darcy said he would never buyout players.

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Of course he wouldn't. That means admitting a mistake.


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Buy them both out. 0g, 3a from Roy and Connolly? FUCK THAT.

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NONE of this talk bodes well for the banner pic at the top of this website


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Squanto wrote:
Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
Why buyout a player with one year just to have however much left for a year he wouldn't even be on the team anymore.


To have $3M more money to spend on a player to replace him.

It does, but next year you only have 3 million more instead of 4.5 million more.

He's the least of our problems in the regular season, and I also think his playoff performance was a big part of not having Hecht with him and Pominville.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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Darcy said he would never buyout players.


He also said he was going to address problems on this team and that never happened

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NONE of this talk bodes well for the banner pic at the top of this website


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BlueandYellow wrote:
Darcy said he would never buyout players.


He also said he was going to address problems on this team and that never happened

He never addresses anything. Him and Golisano don't give a shit.

They just want the $$$.

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