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millertime1983
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:58 am 
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Biggest problem was the PP. 0 for 19 is unacceptable. If they could have even scored 3 or 4 they would be the ones moving on. The Bruins knew they could take penalties when they needed to because their PK would prevail every time.


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X-pensfan wrote:
He let in less than 4 goals in Game 6.
;)


Less than 4 goals would be 3.

All 4 goals were scored with Miller in net.


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Regardless of whether he was tired or overplayed...He didnt steal any games for us against boston. Isnt that what our super-elite olympic goalie is supposed to be capable of? I know the team largely took a shit in front of him, but hell...letting in less than 4 goals in game 6 would have been nice. I was pretty disappointed with him in this series, he did that same thing where he makes the most startlingly amazing saves, then lets in a few crap goals.


He let in less than 4 goals in Game 6.
;)



Really? I'm no mathamagician, but how is 4, less than 4?


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Miller was tied for 7th in the amount of games played in the regular season at 69. I have to beleive it would have been a bunch more had it not been for the olympic break and Miller needing some extra(?) time off.

Last season, 59, due to injury. The season before that, 2007-2008, he played 76.

Yes, goalies want to play and it IS the coaches job to regin them in. Unfortunately, Lindy let's him play! Lindy let's him burn himself out! Lindy doesn't have a great rep for managing goaltenders.

I'm not advocating that Miller plays 70+ games, I would much rather have him play less games than that so he can get some much needed rest. I was just pointing out that even though he played 69 regular season games, the Olympics, and the playoffs, it didn't seem to affect his game. He seems to know how to handle such a heavy workload now, but ideally I would like to see him play less games.


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No backup is gonna be able to do a great job when the starting G plays 70+ games.

It's interesting you bring that up because I was wondering the same thing. I've looked up the stats of the backup goalies who play on a team where the starting goalie plays around that number of games, and it was disappointing to see that most goalies put up decent numbers and got some wins, whereas Lalime's were less than spectacular. Not saying it's all Lalime's fault for not being able to get us a few more wins, but it was interesting to see that there are backups out there who can play as infrequently as Lalime but still win.

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millertime1983
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We will definitely have to look at free agents here, I don't see anyone promising out of Portland. Lalime would be a keeper if he was more consistent. He had some bad games, then come out and stop 30 shots against the Pens in relief. The only plus is that he was better than friggin' Thibeault!


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Is enroth ready to pull up? Can we just ditch lalame and have enroth as our backup? I'd love to see what this kid can do with 15-20 or so NHL games a year.


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millertime1983
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
Is enroth ready to pull up? Can we just ditch lalame and have enroth as our backup? I'd love to see what this kid can do with 15-20 or so NHL games a year.


Honestly I could see Enroth starting as our backup, but if he can't get it done we will be scrambling to find Miller some help. He has great reflexes, he just needs to work on his stick and positioning to make up for his lack in size. But like I said, anyone would be better than Thibault was.


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fly as hale
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I guess the question when it comes to Enroth is would him being Miller's back up be more beneficial than having him play a full season down in Portland? Being Ryan's backup means sitting on the bench for about 60-70 games.

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YankeeInRaleigh
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fly as hale wrote:
I guess the question when it comes to Enroth is would him being Miller's back up be more beneficial than having him play a full season down in Portland? Being Ryan's backup means sitting on the bench for about 60-70 games.



Very true, although it also means practicing with the team, learning from miller, and not being thrown into action too fully before he's ready. It would at least solve our lalime problem.

Although, giving him another year to season in the AHL might be necessary still...I really have no clue as i've never seen the kid play for portland.


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fly as hale
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It would at least solve our lalime problem.


Well, Lalime's contract is up July 1st, and I doubt we're going to re-sign him...so the problem now is just finding another backup.

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KEEP I MIND:

This is not about how many games Ryan Miller can condition himself to play each season (70+), but instead about making sure that the backup isn't marginalized to the point where he's too rusty to come in and do a good job when needed.

If Ryan has to sit more games than he'd like, just to make sure that the backup has adequate net time, then maybe that's what has to happen.

Again, Ruff should be taking that into consideration when managing his goaltenders, and it should NOT be up to Miller how much he plays vs. the backup.


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DieHardFan
PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:11 pm 
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It's hard to find fault with Miller's play this year or his numbers. But he just doesn't seem to be able to lock it down on the biggest stage when his team has the lead. Not all his fault, but just sayin... a 2 goal lead needs to stand up in the playoffs.


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Sometimes Miller over commits himself. That's about all I can think of.


I agree and I think Miller overcommitted himself on Satan overtime winner being so far out. But I'm not blaming Miller because it has to be tough be in his position watching a bunch of knuckleheads perform in front of you.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
sabresEH wrote:
Sometimes Miller over commits himself. That's about all I can think of.


I agree and I think Miller overcommitted himself on Satan overtime winner being so far out. But I'm not blaming Miller because it has to be tough be in his position watching a bunch of knuckleheads perform in front of you.



Naw, the overtime winner wasnt really his fault, Myers had fallen just to his left, blocking millers ability to move that way. Satan saw that, moved to his right and just popped it between myers legs. That goal was just a clusterfuck caused more by our d-men than miller.


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Squanto wrote:
X-pensfan wrote:
He let in less than 4 goals in Game 6.
;)


Less than 4 goals would be 3.

All 4 goals were scored with Miller in net.



Could of sworn there was an empty netter! Check the tape!!

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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
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sabresEH wrote:
Sometimes Miller over commits himself. That's about all I can think of.


I agree and I think Miller overcommitted himself on Satan overtime winner being so far out. But I'm not blaming Miller because it has to be tough be in his position watching a bunch of knuckleheads perform in front of you.



Naw, the overtime winner wasnt really his fault, Myers had fallen just to his left, blocking millers ability to move that way. Satan saw that, moved to his right and just popped it between myers legs. That goal was just a clusterfuck caused more by our d-men than miller.



I agree, just a rookie mistake by Myers.

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