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Jim Bob
PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:35 am 
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Van_Da_Man wrote:
Malkin would be sweet, but we'd probably have to trade vanek, roy, ennis and Myers for him...


More like Myers, Ennis, Adam, and a couple of 1st rounders.

The Pens wouldn't want the contracts of Vanek & Roy.

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Malkin would be tough to get from the Pens, maybe Backstrom from the Caps, he's a great playmaker too, with a decent shot.


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millertime1983 wrote:
Malkin would be tough to get from the Pens, maybe Backstrom from the Caps, he's a great playmaker too, with a decent shot.


No way they let Backstrom go.


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Connolly is like Fine Wine. It doesn't get the job done, it's feminine, and it's around when daddy beats mommy.


That was fuckin HI-larious. Someone promote this man

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Here is Jay's off season plan to getting a Stanley Cup Roser:

Trade Connolly and Roy for draft Picks. Anything, dump them, they're essentially useless for my intents and purposes, and the picks don't figure into my plans.

Take the cap free'd up from those 2, and the rest of our FAs and we're at 34.6M

Resign- Grier, Kennedy, McCormick, Kaleta, and Mair (the guy showed up for the last 30 games of the year) all at around 800k-1M

Giving us a roster that looks like:

Vanek-?-Pommers
Ennis-?-Kennedy
Stafford-Goose-Grier
Mair-McCormick-Kaleta

other notable forwards:
Gerbe, Kassian, and possibly Luke Adam

Myers-?
Rivet-Montador
Weber-Butler
Sekera

Miller
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My first signing,

Paul Martin at 5M per over 4 years
Patrick Marleau 5M per over 2 years (only 1.5M more than Connolly)
Matt Lombardi 4M per over 4 years

I'd also offer at a power play specialist like

Jordan Leopold (2M), and send down Sekera or Butler

Also go out and sign Marty Biron at 1.5M for 1 year.

Our roster then looks like

Vanek-Marleau-Pomminville
Ennis-Lombardi-Kennedy (WOW FAST LINE)
Stafford-Goose-Grier (Bang away boys, Bang away)
Mair-McCormick-Kaleta (Killdozers)

other notable forwards:
Gerbe, Kassian, and possibly Luke Adam

Myers-Martin (Real first pairing)
Rivet-Montador
Weber-Leopold
Butler/Sekera

Miller
Biron

Is that roster much better than we have? I think it's far more skilled, and a better fit for our system. Marleau and Lombardi are pretty responsible in both ends, and good on the PP.

Our back end improves exponentially by adding Martin, and Leopold. And I really think Weber will be able to hold down the back end just fine at this level. If he can stay healthy.

Having Biron as a back up, it's interesting, because he's talented, and adds a good dynamic to the locker room. Much like Lalime, but with some skill left in the tank.




I would take Marleau. I always liked the guy.. for what reason idk... he seems like he could be a good fit here in buffalo... but... I doubt he will come here.

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Trade Connolly and Roy for draft picks and get yourself something nice in the draft. Pick up Marleau. It should be a no brainer if he is available.

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Jim Bob
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millertime1983 wrote:
Malkin would be tough to get from the Pens, maybe Backstrom from the Caps, he's a great playmaker too, with a decent shot.


The Caps won't deal Backstrom.

They'll likely deal Semin, due to his Connolly-esque playoffs this year, to free up money to re-sign Backstrom.

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Jim Bob
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Rutledge222 wrote:
I would take Marleau. I always liked the guy.. for what reason idk... he seems like he could be a good fit here in buffalo... but... I doubt he will come here.


No thanks.

Marleau is another "regular season" guy.

Joe Pavelski is the only Sharks FWD that I would think about. But, he could end up being a guy that is a secondary guy that can't handle being "The Man" ala Connolly & Roy.

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SJ is not likely to give up Marleau, although his playmaking would be welcomed. As for Semin, the way he played for the Caps this year, Backstrom would more liekly be trade bait. Besides, Semin is like Afenigenov was for us. Awesome dangler that doesn't like to pass a lot, doesn't fit with Buffalo's current offensive system.


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Jim Bob
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millertime1983 wrote:
SJ is not likely to give up Marleau, although his playmaking would be welcomed. As for Semin, the way he played for the Caps this year, Backstrom would more liekly be trade bait. Besides, Semin is like Afenigenov was for us. Awesome dangler that doesn't like to pass a lot, doesn't fit with Buffalo's current offensive system.


Marleau is an UFA after the season.

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Kassian will need to make the team out of camp, Luke Adam is the only other forward we could bring up.

Unless Kassian impresses greatly, he's staying in Juniors.

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Jim Bob wrote:
millertime1983 wrote:
SJ is not likely to give up Marleau, although his playmaking would be welcomed. As for Semin, the way he played for the Caps this year, Backstrom would more liekly be trade bait. Besides, Semin is like Afenigenov was for us. Awesome dangler that doesn't like to pass a lot, doesn't fit with Buffalo's current offensive system.


Marleau is an UFA after the season.


True, but chances are he will resign with them, I'd guess 2-3 years. But who knows, if we offer right......


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Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


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Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


Yes trade Connolly he's not going to fetch you alot but something is better than nothing for this soft injury prone forward. I'm sure he would end up hunting us like all the past sabres do but lets face it. Great regular season player and was a great player until he was blasted by Mike Fisher in the playoffs and he will never recover into that player.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
DieHardFan wrote:
Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


Yes trade Connolly he's not going to fetch you alot but something is better than nothing for this soft injury prone forward. I'm sure he would end up hunting us like all the past sabres do but lets face it. Great regular season player and was a great player until he was blasted by Mike Fisher in the playoffs and he will never recover into that player.


Exactly. However they might be inclined to keep him if they can sign a legit 1st line center that can put up numbers.


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millertime1983 wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
DieHardFan wrote:
Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


Yes trade Connolly he's not going to fetch you alot but something is better than nothing for this soft injury prone forward. I'm sure he would end up hunting us like all the past sabres do but lets face it. Great regular season player and was a great player until he was blasted by Mike Fisher in the playoffs and he will never recover into that player.


Exactly. However they might be inclined to keep him if they can sign a legit 1st line center that can put up numbers.


I don't see Darcy signing a big name free agent and I don't want Marleau! He will go after somebody low end. If I were GM I would look at a team that's are in a cap bind and look at their prospects and try to snag one or two of them. Skille from chicago would be a nice start.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
DieHardFan wrote:
Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


Yes trade Connolly he's not going to fetch you alot but something is better than nothing for this soft injury prone forward. I'm sure he would end up hunting us like all the past sabres do but lets face it. Great regular season player and was a great player until he was blasted by Mike Fisher in the playoffs and he will never recover into that player.


Connolly will be poison. Fat paycheck, contract year, proven unreliable player in playoffs. What team is going to want to deal with that?


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DieHardFan wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
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Trade Connolly? Get real. This talk cracks me up. GMs will be lining up to trade away draft picks and prospects for a soft 4.5M/year player in a contract year. Dude's with us til his contract expires, so get used to the idea.


Yes trade Connolly he's not going to fetch you alot but something is better than nothing for this soft injury prone forward. I'm sure he would end up hunting us like all the past sabres do but lets face it. Great regular season player and was a great player until he was blasted by Mike Fisher in the playoffs and he will never recover into that player.


Connolly will be poison. Fat paycheck, contract year, proven unreliable player in playoffs. What team is going to want to deal with that?


That's a really good question on what team! But they need to unload him and get something for him and I would rather do it now rather than wait further into the season at least he's not in the dressing room right from the start of the season and you give someone else a chance to fill his void. Problem is with Buffalo this team lacks any serious talent on offense in the system besides Adam and Kassian and Kassian isn't a Connolly type of a playmaker and either is Adam.


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It wasn't Mike Fisher that hit Connolly, it was Peter Shaeffer (sp?). Connolly had a broken foot that kept him from practicing or skating for three weeks until the day before the playoffs started. He had one practice and started the Boston series. Those were the first games he missed in his last 121, and getting a broken foot from blocking a slapshot is not a "soft" or "injury prone" thing.

Could he have played better, yes. Was he near 100%, no, and neither would any player in the league after not being able to skate for three weeks. You guys put him in a no-win situation. If he doesn't play he's a wimp...if he mans up and tries to do what he can far short of top game shape he's still a wimp. He comes out and tries to man up again after the series by taking blame and he takes shit for that too.

If he wasn't doing certain things on the ice that Ruff wanted him to do then that's one thing (and I can't stress that enough), but all this huffy-puffy talk about who's soft is a crock. I know first hand the level of commitment it takes to be in top game shape through twelve years of little league, high school, and college football...six years of organized hockey...and 20 years of playing little league, high school, college, and amatuer league baseball. It takes so much to be at peak performance that any nagging injury or time away from training is enough to set you back for a month. There is no way a player comes back at their best after being off their feet for three weeks. An upper body injury would at least allow for running or skating to keep the cardio up, but a foot/ankle/leg injury ruins that.

I think the people that gripe the most about Connolly are the people that never picked up a wiffle ball bat, let alone trained and competed at a high level in any demanding sport. Again, if Connolly was not doing something Ruff wanted, or making mental screw-ups than he needs to take blame for it. Physically though, the guy wasn't near 100% and there's nothing he or anyone else could've done to get there after one practice.

As for next season, he knows like anyone else that he's in a contract year. We should all be expecting his best effort because we all know there's self-interest involved. Will he produce like a legit #1 center...maybe but we all know he and Roy are better off as 2nd line centers. They would also benefit from having a legit scoring winger, and only Vanek fits that mold. For now they're the best on the roster, and both should put 70+ pts up in a full season, which is better than half the league.

Marleau (if he didn't scoff at the idea of playing in Buffalo) would cost about 7 mil per, and there are too many other holes to fill than to put it all in one position. Buffalo needs a scoring winger and two GOOD d-men that can play the PP, and a back-up goalie. No matter how much anybody hates Connolly (for legit reasons or not) those other needs are more important than replacing him with a cap space hog that leaves the rest of the roster hurting.


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