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Squanto
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No offense to our Catholic members, but this is your Church.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/0 ... 95802.html

A woman in Arizona suffered from pulmonary hypertension, and was admitted to the ER of a Catholic church having complications with her pregnancy, 11 weeks in. After consultation with doctors, the patient, and family, it was determined that an abortion was called for to save the live of the mother.

Sister Margaret McBride, a hospital administrator, was charged with approving or denying the abortion. Again, the medical staff determined that if the abortion was not performed, the mother would die. The Sister consulted with the Ethics Committee of the hospital, and the abortion was approved. The mother lived.

What happened when the Phoenix Diocese found out? Sister Margaret McBride was demoted, and she's now just Margaret McBride. She was excommunicated for approving the abortion.


If I'm ever seriously hurt, I expect to be taken to the closest hospital for treatment. If that hospital happens to be Catholic run, I expect to get the full and correct MEDICAL treatment without with will of the Catholic Church being imposed upon me. I applaud Sister McBride for making a difficult decision. I also wish the Church would get out of the business of medicine.

Shame on the Church for allowing priests to play around with pre-pubescent penises without repercussions while other good people get fucked in the ass for making tough choices in the best interests of a patient.


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Squanto wrote:
No offense to our Catholic members, but this is your Church.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/0 ... 95802.html

A woman in Arizona suffered from pulmonary hypertension, and was admitted to the ER of a Catholic church having complications with her pregnancy, 11 weeks in. After consultation with doctors, the patient, and family, it was determined that an abortion was called for to save the live of the mother.

Sister Margaret McBride, a hospital administrator, was charged with approving or denying the abortion. Again, the medical staff determined that if the abortion was not performed, the mother would die. The Sister consulted with the Ethics Committee of the hospital, and the abortion was approved. The mother lived.

What happened when the Phoenix Diocese found out? Sister Margaret McBride was demoted, and she's now just Margaret McBride. She was excommunicated for approving the abortion.


If I'm ever seriously hurt, I expect to be taken to the closest hospital for treatment. If that hospital happens to be Catholic run, I expect to get the full and correct MEDICAL treatment without with will of the Catholic Church being imposed upon me. I applaud Sister McBride for making a difficult decision. I also wish the Church would get out of the business of medicine.

Shame on the Church for allowing priests to play around with pre-pubescent penises without repercussions while other good people get fucked in the ass for making tough choices in the best interests of a patient.


Well said. :clap:

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Well said. :clap:

Seconded :handgestures-thumbupleft:

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I would hope that an abortion would be approved were I in that circumstance.

Eleven weeks along isn't exactly far enough into the pregnancy for the fetus/infant at that point to survive if the mother dies, anyway. Durrr.

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I would hope that an abortion would be approved were I in that circumstance.

Eleven weeks along isn't exactly far enough into the pregnancy for the fetus/infant at that point to survive if the mother dies, anyway. Durrr.

But momma could be put on life support and become, for all intents and purposes, an incubator, no?

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I would hope that an abortion would be approved were I in that circumstance.

Eleven weeks along isn't exactly far enough into the pregnancy for the fetus/infant at that point to survive if the mother dies, anyway. Durrr.

But momma could be put on life support and become, for all intents and purposes, an incubator, no?

Good goddamn, that's a scary dystopian scenario. Like The Giver, but colder.

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Squanto wrote:
I expect to get the full and correct MEDICAL treatment without with will of the Catholic Church being imposed upon me.


Very well said. Just had a discussion about this kind of thing yesterday with my wife actually. She's very religious and I'm of course a heathen destined for Hell. She was planning on running to raise money for a pro-life organization and I decided to ask her three questions.

do you approve of abortions in the following situations?:

1. If a child is molested
2. A woman is raped
3. The life of the mother is at stake

She of course said she would support an abortion in those situations so I told her that she would be raising money for an organization that would have ALL abortions illegal. She's not running anymore.

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Squanto wrote:
I expect to get the full and correct MEDICAL treatment without with will of the Catholic Church being imposed upon me.


Very well said. Just had a discussion about this kind of thing yesterday with my wife actually. She's very religious and I'm of course a heathen destined for Hell. She was planning on running to raise money for a pro-life organization and I decided to ask her three questions.

do you approve of abortions in the following situations?:

1. If a child is molested
2. A woman is raped
3. The life of the mother is at stake

She of course said she would support an abortion in those situations so I told her that she would be raising money for an organization that would have ALL abortions illegal. She's not running anymore.


So its your fault when she gets fat :evil: ;)

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So its your fault when she gets fat :evil: ;)


Hahaha! She's working hard right now since having the baby to get back down so she can pass her PT test. I told her to find a race that doesn't support shitty dogma...hahaha! The base actually has one coming up in two weeks.

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But momma could be put on life support and become, for all intents and purposes, an incubator,
no?


As I understand it, the Catholic church doesn't explicitly disallow life support, but does kinda frown upon it.

Can you imagine the uproar if that actually happened though?


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Squanto wrote:
NYIntensity wrote:
But momma could be put on life support and become, for all intents and purposes, an incubator,
no?


As I understand it, the Catholic church doesn't explicitly disallow life support, but does kinda frown upon it.

Can you imagine the uproar if that actually happened though?

Uproar? The church would use the publicity to say "Through medicinal advances that have been allowed by God's good graces, we were able to preserve the life of this child!"

Yeah though, peeps would be pissed.

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...while other good people get fucked in the ass for making tough choices in the best interests of a patient.



Damn, lady got excommunicated and sodomized in the same day? That sucks.


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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
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...while other good people get fucked in the ass for making tough choices in the best interests of a patient.



Damn, lady got excommunicated and sodomized in the same day? That sucks.


Getting sodomized doesn't get you kicked out, lookit all the altar boys.

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Fuckit. Someone just end the church already. Dissolve the fucker, it's too out of touch. I'm not saying I want my local church to go down, but these dumbasses shouldn't be running one of (If not still the) largest religions in the world. This is moronic. Who switched our world with the one that doesn't make any fucking sense? Beat their ass too.

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Sodomy is defined in some states as any sex that isn't face to face... Sinners.

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Sodomy is defined in some states as any sex that isn't face to face... Sinners.

What if you do it in front of a mirror?

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What about taping it so you can both get filled in on the views you missed?

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Or a live relay?

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Places where oral sex is illegal: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Georgia, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C.


An erection that shows through a man's clothing is illegal in: Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Washington D.C. and Wisconsin.


In Missouri sexually deviant behavior between people of the same sex is classified as a class A misdemeanor.


In Nevada it is illegal to have sex without a condom. Hey wait, that kind of makes sense.


In Washington State there is a law against having sex with a virgin under any circumstances (including the wedding night!).


In Washington D.C. there is a law against having sex in any position other than face to face.


http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/flux/gSpot/sexLaw.html

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Im confused... so in washington state they have to go out of state in order to not be a virgin anymore? LMFAO

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