I wanted Eager, Nystrom, Winchester or Boogard for the fourth line.

Nystrom is more of a third liner though and Boogard is another Andrew Peters who fights better.


Really liked Brad Winchester, fights, 3g, 5a last year, 13g, 8a the year before. 6-5, 228 pounds, fights and was a +3 last year on a St. Louis team that kind of sucked.

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I agree also, we do need another big scorer or playmaker guy. We need a guy like Goose, but still better. Or someone to just bulldoze people over on the forecheck and to put some pressure on the other lines.

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I don't know who's out there but aside from getting a bruiser for the fourth line it would be nice to get a true power forward for the second or third line to just what you said and smash people consistently.

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nice post...some how you made me believe there could still be hope with darcy.....i'm thinking since loods and hank might be gone, volchenkov would definitely be a great signing....more toughness and meanness on the blueline please.....thank you

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"It is more about them than it is about the team...Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win." - Mike Singletary

Tyler Myers - Future captain of the Buffalo Sabres, and future Norris Trophy Winner

Manning the machine gun on the Tyler Myers Bandwagon - just in case any teams have an idea of prying him away from us (3 GM's shot already)

Connolly/Roy - 2 goals in the last 47 playoff games

I do too, but I don't like the 20 game slumps he goes into....If Burke like him so much, sell high for a player playing low.

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

Trade 2 thirds (and whatever else reasonably necessary) for a 2nd round pick and draft Tyler Pitlick.

Gaustad with better offense.


...and this year, no deadline deals for forwards as they can't pickup our system to be worth beans...Zubrus, Bernier, and Torres.

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

I have no problem with Darcy trading 2 3rd rounders and move into the second round and get a guy that fell out of the first round. This is why I'm not a fan of trading a high pick for a rental that's only on the team a month.

One thing I'm happy about though is no-one trading with Burke for Kaberle. He's not worth a first rounder and a player.

No one knew what Torres was gonna bring when he came to Buffalo.

How do you ever change a team if you don't ever take that risk to trade for another player?

First you bitch and complain about Darcy never having the balls to trade for a player, then he ends up trading for a player who in theory should have upgraded our team with a decent Power Forward who unfortunately didn't fit in well with our team, and you still bitch because he traded away a pick?

Make up your fucking mind dude. How do you know he wasn't going to score a goal for the Sabres? Did you know Torres wasn't going to be the savior of our team, did you expect him to be? Seriously, stop bitching about the moves a GM makes that don't work, you can't see into the future, because if Torres had come to Buffalo and scored 20 goals with us, you would have a different tune saying it was one of the best trades ever and we robbed Columbus blind.

Did anyone think when he traded to get Drury and Briere they would be as good as they were with us?

What about the trade that brought in Hasek? Did you really think Hasek was going to win the Hart and Vezina trophies after he was brought in after not even being a starting goaltender?

The Kovalchuk trade, wasn't he suppose to score 20 goals with Jersey and land them a cup again?

You take the risk to trade, it either works, or it doesn't, be fucking happy he made an attempt at making the team better.

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With Buffalo being a so called small market team that is built around the draft you can't afford to throw away high picks for a rental player for a month.
Sorry but if you look at the Drury and Briere trade back then those were great moves because these players were just starting to hit their prime and not alot was given up for those players. As for Hasek he was never really given a shot because of Belfour being the number 1 goalie. Moore and Torres were never players getting better just mediocre. I'm just not a fan of a player on a team for a month unless you have all the pieces in place to make a long playoff run which Buffalo doesn't have yet.

You still would have bitched had Darcy not made the move, and still you had no fucking idea what Torres or Moore would have done under Ruff.

I mean really, they make a trade and you bitch after the season is over when you finally see it not working out, but you aren't bitching when he first made that trade, because it could work out.

The only way to know is to try, and if it doesn't work out, well you lost a draft pick out of the deal.

Had Torres scored 10 or more goals you'd have a different tune. You'd be all for having him on this team and how great it was to give up a 2 round draft pick for a guy who scored 30 goals this year.

You can't ever be pleased unless he trades a 7th round pick for Ovechkin.

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Son of a bitch....he did nothing again....damn it.....

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"It is more about them than it is about the team...Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win." - Mike Singletary

Tyler Myers - Future captain of the Buffalo Sabres, and future Norris Trophy Winner

Manning the machine gun on the Tyler Myers Bandwagon - just in case any teams have an idea of prying him away from us (3 GM's shot already)

Connolly/Roy - 2 goals in the last 47 playoff games

Exactly.

If Darcy doesn't make the move for Torres:

"They only care about making the playoffs. They don't really want to win the Cup. Darcy is a passive GM who never does anything."

It's of course VERY easy to come running back after the fact and complain because Torres was a bust. When it happened, most knowledgable hockey folks thought it was a good move. They couldn't have forseen Torres slacking off and not giving a shit, being injured, whatever the problem was.

Darcy's not the greatest GM, and I wouldn't mind a change their. However, this obsession that folks have with trashing EVERY SINGLE THING the guy does is downright pathetic.

Regarding Torres, Greg Wyshynski even gave the deal 2 out of 4 Milbury heads in favor of Buffalo (please tell me someone else remembers his trade rating system).

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mechaphil

this is probably high and sight but i would have rather seen stempniak traded to Buffalo over torres. I didn't like Torres in Edmonton and i think Stempniak would have given Buffalo a scoring winger with some grit and veteran presence (playing for his hometown team would have been cool for him as well). i say high and sight because you can say well they only traded a 4th or a 3rd for stempniak and he went on a 10 goal tear. However i just feel he would have been the better trade option.

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It's sad that as long as Quinn is in charge Regier will be here, and as long as Regier is here Ruff is here. Say hello to more years of mediocrity Buffalo. However it is urged that you don't accept it.

RIP K.E.G. 3-16-2004

And then he had two assists and was a -4 in the playoffs. Stempniak is HELLA streaky.

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still better than being benched. and i was attacking the situation from a non high and sight side. it's easy to come back and say torres was the dumbest move. Didn't fit in with the team (should've known that before), did nothing for the sabres but fill a roster spot (they have enough of those guys). Plus you never can say or sure what would have happened if stempniak had been traded for. maybe he would have done nothing for buffalo, maybe he would have been better in the playoffs. you cannot know what doesn't happen in this universe. if there is a parallel universe where it did occur and you can talk to them then go right ahead and let me know what they say. but since SETI hasn't found anything yet nor NASA, etcetera i highly doubt any one has yet.

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It's sad that as long as Quinn is in charge Regier will be here, and as long as Regier is here Ruff is here. Say hello to more years of mediocrity Buffalo. However it is urged that you don't accept it.

RIP K.E.G. 3-16-2004

Just curious, do you mean "hindsight"?

And I do agree with you about Torres. Just stating my opinion about Stemps is all. Gotta say, though - that ridiculous streak in Phoenix was AWESOME to watch.

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How is Darcy supposed to know how a player will 'fit in with the team' ahead of time? That's a joke.

But Raffi Torres? We were supposed to be sold on a guy who's not donea thing for 3 seasons?

Ray Whitney was out there. Go get that guy.

Torres was the quintessential Darcy Reiger move.

All you guys talk about the damned if you do damned if you don't attitude we have with Darcy, but what you never seem to get is you either pull the trigger or you holster your gun.

You can't be sorta pregnant and you can't half pull a trigger.

We could have gotten Whitney, gave up a 1st round pick and still traded up in the 2nd with our pick and a third to get Pitlick. That's how it could have worked out.

Zubrus, Bernier, and Torres....who's f'n afraid of those guys? What the F have thy ever done in the league?

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

We didn't win the Stanley cup.
Kicked in the first round.
Didn't win the league.
Didn't win the conference.

WTF? There's no room for improvement??? We need offense!

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