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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.

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weber will give you a hell of a lot more penalty minutes than lydman did, though. webs got a temper he can't totally control. which i think is can be a GREAT thing for this organization


That's exactly what this team needs, I just hope he comes to camp in the best shape of his life to try to earn a spot. He had his chance last year and took a step back.


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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.


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weber will give you a hell of a lot more penalty minutes than lydman did, though. webs got a temper he can't totally control. which i think is can be a GREAT thing for this organization


That's exactly what this team needs, I just hope he comes to camp in the best shape of his life to try to earn a spot. He had his chance last year and took a step back.



i watched a lot of portland games this season, and i don't really have a doubt that weber won't be on this team. now if only kassian can go into camp with guns-ablazin...


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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.

You don't think his bosses have a say in what goes down? And that last sentence doesn't make sense "IDK if he's all to blame.....the GM takes full responsibility".

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SabresBillsFan wrote:
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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.



vanek was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. in the end i'm happy matched the offer sheet, but there was no reason for him to not be locked up before that ..


but god damn did you watch the draft at all and think... "hall could have maybe almost potentially been ours if we let them take van"?


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Los9090 wrote:
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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.

You don't think his bosses have a say in what goes down? And that last sentence doesn't make sense "IDK if he's all to blame.....the GM takes full responsibility".


What I mean is I don't know if Tom and Larry are pulling the strings as Darcy being the puppet/scapegoat.
This organization just seems to be run the wrong way and wasn't it not to long ago even Rene Robert was getting pissed about it.


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shedoesntgetit wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.

vanek was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. in the end i'm happy matched the offer sheet, but there was no reason for him to not be locked up before that ..

but god damn did you watch the draft at all and think... "hall could have maybe almost potentially been ours if we let them take van"?

Vanek's agent at the time said he was going to go the offer sheet route anyway so its not like we could have gotten that deal done earlier. And who says that Edmonton would have finished in last if the Sabres didn't match the offer sheet...And if their entire team didn't get injured this season?

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Los9090 wrote:
shedoesntgetit wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
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I am a little frustrated at the trend of painting ourselves into a corner then over paying for people. Not that it's a daily thing, it just sucks.


Tell me about it I feel the same way but all I ever hear is from people on hear bitching and complaining because I hate Regier. Bottom line I can't stand the guy ever since Drury, Briere and Vanek situation. It should have never came down like that. I don't know if he's all to blame for that but being the GM he takes full responsibility.

vanek was a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. in the end i'm happy matched the offer sheet, but there was no reason for him to not be locked up before that ..

but god damn did you watch the draft at all and think... "hall could have maybe almost potentially been ours if we let them take van"?

Vanek's agent at the time said he was going to go the offer sheet route anyway so its not like we could have gotten that deal done earlier. And who says that Edmonton would have finished in last if the Sabres didn't match the offer sheet...And if their entire team didn't get injured this season?



well then to be honest i don't remember his agent saying that. but as far as Edmonton being bottom last you never know what would have happened if vanek WAS on that team, thus the "almost, maybe, potentially"


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All I said is that it's frustrating to have some bloated contracts on our books for underperformers and that we in the past have payed out the nose because we ran out of options. Don't know who is ultimately responsible but it blows either way.

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It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


He's like the Mayans, "you have to achieve emptiness before you can become enlightened.".

You know what that means, 2012 the Cup is ours, but the world will end!

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SabresBillsFan wrote:
It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


Have you READ most of the remarks on WGR or TBN's website? I wouldn't say that most of those folks have much of a clue what they're talking about.


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Squanto wrote:
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It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


Have you READ most of the remarks on WGR or TBN's website? I wouldn't say that most of those folks have much of a clue what they're talking about.


They might not be die-hard fans but come on their not stupid. Did you listen to Darcy on the buffalonews.com tonight about the happenings today. It seems like it's the same excuse the last 3 years. Come on Squanto the shit he dishes out to us already is stale. Do I think he's the worst GM no I don't I think Sutter takes the boat in that.


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Squanto wrote:
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It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


Have you READ most of the remarks on WGR or TBN's website? I wouldn't say that most of those folks have much of a clue what they're talking about.


It's all this:

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Well, I think that's going to be our defense...
Myers, Leopold, Rivet, Sekera, Butler, Montador, Weber...but Rivet will miss some time.

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They might not be die-hard fans but come on their not stupid. Did you listen to Darcy on the buffalonews.com tonight about the happenings today. It seems like it's the same excuse the last 3 years. Come on Squanto the shit he dishes out to us already is stale. Do I think he's the worst GM no I don't I think Sutter takes the boat in that.


They're just more video game GMs who think that Darcy is a moron because he didn't sign Biron, Gonchar, Jokinen, and Volchenkcov in the first 30 seconds of free agency.


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Squanto wrote:
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It's funny that people seem to give me shit for saying what I think about Regier but go onto wgr550 or buffalonews.com and see what people have to say about his signing or not doing much. People are just plain sick of him running the team. Do I think he's the worst GM out there. No, not at all but it seems like instead of taking this team forward he moves laterally or backwards.


Have you READ most of the remarks on WGR or TBN's website? I wouldn't say that most of those folks have much of a clue what they're talking about.




clueless fans or not, darcy is still a mediocre, at best, GM.

its not just him though, its our whole organization at this point. our owner is one of the richest men in the country, but isn't too willing to spend on his team.

larry quinn is just kind of a joke, he was after all the man behind the slug logo.

and as much as i respect lindy ruff and think he is a good coach, he falls too in love with certain players, and has a hard time letting guys out of the dog house once they've gone into it.


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Well, I think that's going to be our defense...
Myers, Leopold, Rivet, Sekera, Butler, Montador, Weber...but Rivet will miss some time.


That's not a bad defense corp..


I tell you I got that old pain in my left knee, there's a trade brewing...forward....

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its not just him though, its our whole organization at this point. our owner is one of the richest men in the country, but isn't too willing to spend on his team.



EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY SPEND TO THE CAP EVERY YEAR.

Just stop.


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