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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:58 pm 
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i guess darcy isnt too happy with kassian. i think hes gonna trade him. kassian, aside from the hit, and the punch, has apparently missed curfew and didnt show up to something. he said he had 3 strikes already against him.

anyone know whats going on?


Was this recent or what you heard all along?

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Kassian is a wild man! That's not a bad thing, I just hope he picks his fights wisely in the NHL because some of the leagues heavy weights can flat out kill you. Like, as in DEAD.

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I hope they don't trade him before we can label him as a bust. ;)

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Update on Kaleta:

When the NHL was negotiating the last collective bargaining agreement, it made a point of ensuring that teams had the opportunity to take players to salary arbitration.

But teams almost never use club-elected arbitration and this summer is no exception. When the deadline passed for club-elected salary arbitration Tuesday afternoon, the only name on the list was Patrick Kaleta of the Buffalo Sabres.

The 24-year-old right winger had the best offensive season of his career in 2009-10 when he scored 10 goals and 15 points in 55 games to go with 89 penalty minutes. He made $522,500 last season. Over the course of his career, Kaleta has scored 17 goals and 31 points in 153 games.

The arbitration case ensures Kaleta will be under contract next season. He can opt for a one- or two-year award if he does not come to a contract agreement with the Sabres before the decision is handed down, likely sometime in August.


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Oakstream wrote:
Update on Kaleta:

When the NHL was negotiating the last collective bargaining agreement, it made a point of ensuring that teams had the opportunity to take players to salary arbitration.

But teams almost never use club-elected arbitration and this summer is no exception. When the deadline passed for club-elected salary arbitration Tuesday afternoon, the only name on the list was Patrick Kaleta of the Buffalo Sabres.

The 24-year-old right winger had the best offensive season of his career in 2009-10 when he scored 10 goals and 15 points in 55 games to go with 89 penalty minutes. He made $522,500 last season. Over the course of his career, Kaleta has scored 17 goals and 31 points in 153 games.

The arbitration case ensures Kaleta will be under contract next season. He can opt for a one- or two-year award if he does not come to a contract agreement with the Sabres before the decision is handed down, likely sometime in August.


http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/3 ... -deal.html


so this is a good thing then right? why wouldn't the sabres just give him a little love... im not a fan of overpaying guys, but i would certainly give him maybe a lil more to keep him around and happy....

so explain this... the club is taking him to the arbitrator ... which means he is defiantly on the 2010/11 roster...

if he does not come to terms before the award from arbitration ... he can accept the arbitrators decision on a one or two year deal... do i have that right? that doesn't sound like a bad deal? what happens in the event of an offer sheet on him or does this take him off of that list? and i wonder why more teams dont use this?

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Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.

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Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.

That's what I was thinking. This is one case where Darcy has to open his wallet. Kaleta is important to the team.

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If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

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mechaphil wrote:
Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.


yeah,why not just give him a little raise some incentives and get it done... do you think its the years or the money on this deal thats holding it up...

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gr8daygo wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.


yeah,why not just give him a little raise some incentives and get it done... do you think its the years or the money on this deal thats holding it up...


My guess...he wants a deal close to what Cal Clutterbuck just got; and Darcy wants to give him around 650K-700K

The Cal Clusterfuck deal is driving up every 4th line players value in the league...except Andrew Peters' apparently.

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Damnit Minnesota! 1.7 mil at it's highest point? That's crazy.

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If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

If I had decided to jerk off instead, I probably wouldn't be paying child support...


"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"


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jvaccaro6 wrote:
gr8daygo wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.


yeah,why not just give him a little raise some incentives and get it done... do you think its the years or the money on this deal thats holding it up...


My guess...he wants a deal close to what Cal Clutterbuck just got; and Darcy wants to give him around 650K-700K

The Cal Clusterfuck deal is driving up every 4th line players value in the league...except Andrew Peters' apparently.


what was the clusterfuck deal worth?

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1 million this year, 1.5 next year, and 1.7 in 2012/2013
The cap hit comes in at 1.4 million.

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If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

If I had decided to jerk off instead, I probably wouldn't be paying child support...


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Lol, if you guys want a good laugh, check out the Cory Tropp interview...this kid needs some serious work on interviews before he's ready to come into a room with the likes of Pomminville and Roy... :lol:

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sabresrocker56 wrote:
1 million this year, 1.5 next year, and 1.7 in 2012/2013
The cap hit comes in at 1.4 million.


yeah, i that seems steep... i think patty deserves a bit of a raise ... but a 1.4 hit for 3 years, seems steep, even for what he does bring to the table... but im horrible at anything contract, so i wouldn't know where to begin....lol but its obviously between $500K and 1.4 million.... hahaha

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Lol, if you guys want a good laugh, check out the Cory Tropp interview...this kid needs some serious work on interviews before he's ready to come into a room with the likes of Pomminville and Roy... :lol:

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gr8daygo wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Because it can only be used once. This feels like "franchising" a player in the NFL, and often it's only used in dire circumstances. I'm glad Kaleta is under contract, buuut...this feels wrong to me.


yeah,why not just give him a little raise some incentives and get it done... do you think its the years or the money on this deal thats holding it up...


You can not give incentives to Kaleta.

He's too young.

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Rob Niedermayer just signed a one-year deal with the Buffalo Sabres.

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WTF???!?!?!?!

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I see nothing regarding price yet...

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