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mechaphil
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:44 pm 
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At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

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patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over


I also believe Roloson would be a better option but I hate to admit it this was a move to keep Miller happy and that he's a great team guy and the other players like him.


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Van_Da_Man wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

With our team, if Miller gets hurt the season is over anyway.


Not if they actually had a guy like Roloson or any other dependable backup that is not named Lalime or Enroth

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SabresBillsFan wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over


I also believe Roloson would be a better option but I hate to admit it this was a move to keep Miller happy and that he's a great team guy and the other players like him.


He could be the most like able guy on the team but he still sucks at his job

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patkane88 wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over


I also believe Roloson would be a better option but I hate to admit it this was a move to keep Miller happy and that he's a great team guy and the other players like him.


He could be the most like able guy on the team but he still sucks at his job


Believe me I don't disagree with you at all I think the team really gets exposed when Miller isn't in net. Miller is one of the best goalie's in the league and he bail's his teammates out constantly. And Lalime is a decent back-up at best.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over


I also believe Roloson would be a better option but I hate to admit it this was a move to keep Miller happy and that he's a great team guy and the other players like him.


He could be the most like able guy on the team but he still sucks at his job


Believe me I don't disagree with you at all I think the team really gets exposed when Miller isn't in net. Miller is one of the best goalie's in the league and he bail's his teammates out constantly. And Lalime is a descent back-up at best.


I don't even think saying descent at best is right, the guy has won a total of 9 games in 40 games he has started in a Sabre uniform. If you would have said below average back up I would agree.

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mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.

OK, then we'll go by SV%, in which case they were the same last year.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.


Exactly you put Rolo on this team he'd probably have a GAA at 2.70-2.80

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mechaphil wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.

OK, then we'll go by SV%, in which case they were the same last year.


I still rather have Rolo he has always been pretty good over his career, lalime on the other hand.....

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mechaphil wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.

OK, then we'll go by SV%, in which case they were the same last year.


thats what i usually go by. i do think roloson offers more talent then lalime. im ok with the move.

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Miller's shout out to Lalime at the NHL Awards pretty much was him telling Darcy to resign Lalime.

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It's an, "oh I guess this game doesn't mean as much so I can slack off" type of response from a team needing leadership or an attitude adjustment.


I'm kind of surprised you made this statement.

I don't believe they play worse in front of Lalime because they slack off. I believe they are overly conscious that their back-up goaltender is in and in attempting to play conservative play timid and passive. You don't want to give up goals, so you play back, and in doing so lose your aggressiveness and forecheck.

Too much of the attitude "let's allow only 1-2 goals for Patty Lala" and not enough of the attitude "let's score 3-4 goals for Patty Lala."

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Lalime is a Decent backup goalie. Compare him to goalies that played 10-25 games last season:

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Decent.

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Decent.


They get too caught up in this:
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And forget that it's because of this:
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And now this season we're looking at this:
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patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
At this point, he's better than Enroth. It's true.


And they are better options (Roloson) out in the FA market right now. If Miller gets hurt, god forbid, the season is over

Not last year he wasn't.

Roli - 3.00GAA .907SV%
Lala - 2.81GAA .907SV%


roloson was facing about 32 shots per game last year. lalime about 29. so the GAA is misleading, because buffalo defense is better then the isles.

OK, then we'll go by SV%, in which case they were the same last year.


I still rather have Rolo he has always been pretty good over his career, lalime on the other hand.....


OK Mr. Kane, Ill give you a pass because you're probably too young to remember Roloson's stint here in Buffalo. As many have pointed out with RECENT stats, you have no basis for claiming Roloson to be a "better option" than Lalime. Now, I know you might have been too young to remember it, but does anyone else remember the good ole Dwayner having the very unbecoming for a netminder nickname of "Redlight Roloson???" The dude is no better than Lalime. You're wasting your time

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:D Buffalo hates its backups.

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So do you think Enroth will have a few starts, even without goaltending injurys?
Maybe send Lalime down for another "conditioning stint" and give him some games in Portland while Enroth gets 2-3 starts?

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So do you think Enroth will have a few starts, even without goaltending injurys?
Maybe send Lalime down for another "conditioning stint" and give him some games in Portland while Enroth gets 2-3 starts?

I wouldnt discount it....seems reasonable if Patty is willing to take the AHL assignment again, but even with Miller holdin the net down, it should be worrisome to fans that Enroth is literally THE only option in our farm system behind Miller. We need some minor league goaltending depth in the worst way.

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So do you think Enroth will have a few starts, even without goaltending injurys?

Yeah I definitely think we'll see Enroth up here more frequently than last season. It's why Lalime only signed a one-year deal, Darcy is planning on bringing Enroth up as soon as possible, but he just doesn't think he's ready to become a full-time backup yet.

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So do you think Enroth will have a few starts, even without goaltending injurys?

Yeah I definitely think we'll see Enroth up here more frequently than last season. It's why Lalime only signed a one-year deal, Darcy is planning on bringing Enroth up as soon as possible, but he just doesn't think he's ready to become a full-time backup yet.


Lalime signed a one-year deal because he's old and nearing the end of his NHL career.

Also, for those of you who are saying that Roloson is on the market, you're all wrong. Cap Geek says that he's still got a year left on his current contract, and I doubt the Islanders trade him now that Biron is gone and DiPietro always has that possibility of being injured.

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