We've grown accustomed to players becoming the prima-donna's, and ownership taking a back seat. The player(in this instance) was a selfish-prick(which we even admit we'd be too), but that is simply not acceptable to some(including this guy, Jr Seau, and myself). I think any homegrown guy who accepts an offer from another franchise for reason's other than an owner who's not committed to a championship, is more than unacceptable. It warrants a response. This guy went off the deep end for sure, but I see no reason why he shouldn't send a passionate response to his team's fans.



...at worst he will make a ton off the games where he plays Miami if he plays it up.

At worst, players will forever second guess coming to Cleveland to play, knowing the ownership could snap and disparage them to the public.

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if it hasn't been already said and heck even if it has. Golisano views it as a business transaction. acquiring another asset to his empire. most people who build themselves up from the bottom have that okay i'll buy it be into it then onto the next thing. have to keep the empire going. Golisano has lost interest and left a terrified Landscaper to run his team. he is basically a check and relies on the knowledge of Quinn and Regie, and i'm sorry that isn't going to get you very far. now if he sees a serious dip in profits then he'll have to become interested and likely change the guard.

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It's sad that as long as Quinn is in charge Regier will be here, and as long as Regier is here Ruff is here. Say hello to more years of mediocrity Buffalo. However it is urged that you don't accept it.

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So let's see.....

If the owner participates in player transactions, and directs his GM to sign certain players, he's considered a bad owner and a meddler. (Al Davis / Ralph Wilson)

If the owner allows his GM to have full control over the players signed and moved, he's considered an absentee landlord who only cares about money. (Tom Golisano)

Which is it folks? You can't have it both ways. Tom Golisano has allowed Darcy Regier to spend money every year he's owned this franchise. EVERY YEAR.

TG takes way to much heat in this down. WAY too much.

I, for one, will always be glad Tom Golisano isn't the owner to take a jack-assed front seat role like Mark Cuban does. I wouldn't mind if Goli was more like Ted Leonsis, but that's neither here nor there. We may complain about Golisano, but at this moment, Sabres fans should be grateful he's the kind of owner to sit back and not give a damn.

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an owner that participates in player transactions is not an automatic bad owner/meddler. an owner of a team should be able to give his input about the direction the team should take since it is, you know, his. the issue arises when an owner begins to handcuff his GM into doing what he wants regardless of how it will effect the team.

that being said. i think that if Tommy was actually interested (or at least appeared to be) in the team then i dont think that people would bitch nearly as much.

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I think every Sabres fan (at least, every rational Sabres fan) knows Golisano doesn't involve himself because he doesn't care. I think it's Larry Quinn who gets the most guff, and rightfully so. As a minority owner, he's still an owner, after all.

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Actually, it IS both!

A "good" owner should use good communication all the time, and good timing when expressing his desire for the teams direction. Or forcing his will to change the direction. Too much meddling can only do harm, but if you have an trusting, steady line of communication that keeps you in the loop (as an owner) then you really can make informed decisions when there is an impasse.

From my point of view any owner would be cool with the job MGMT is doing, the best way to build in a cap era is through the draft. The Sabres are close, real close. You don't need the 84' Oilers to win a Cup. Just the right combination of players, and lucky timing will get it done.

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This isn't a black & white conversation.

This is about the gray area in between.

There are some owners who "meddle" that get results. Jerry Jones is the de facto GM with the Cowboys [and I'm a REDSKINS Fan...] and still put a good team out there. Mark Cuban has a huge hand in running the Mavericks and while they haven't won it all under his ownership, they are closer than they ever were before he owned the team.

You can also have owners like Golisano that work well IF the people they trust to run the organization are really good at what they do.

My biggest problem with Golisano isn't that he's hands off as much as who he has decided to entrust the franchise to.

Golisano appears to be happy as a clam with Quinn & Regier at the helm of the ship as long as the financial state of the team is to his liking.

Personally, I don't mind a more detached owner. But, I would prefer a detached owner that makes personnel decisions that are based more on Ws & Ls than P&L statements.....

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i know this has been beaten with a hammer to death, but one last tidbit on the lebron thing. he didnt sign with miami, it was a sign and trade. so cleveland signed him, and shipped him off. they got 2 first round picks out of the deal, that was at lebrons concession i guess.

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Miami wanted him for as long as possible, and without the trade, it would have only been 5 years. Since he signed with Cleveland, he was able to sign for 6 years.

That the owner said everything he said, and then allowed his management staff to do that is crap. The owner should get off his high horse and shit the hell up.

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It was two first and two second round choices, I think.

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Is it really that slow that we're talking about a basketball deal?

Hahahaha

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I just want an owner(and top management) who are committed to, and capable of winning a cup. I think having an owner who has a deep understanding of hockey wouldn't be a bad idea, seeing he's the boss. Otherwise a couple ass-clowns could trick him into thinking they have what it takes.

On a personal note, I wouldn't enter any business venture I knew nothing about, unless I was ONLY in it for a pretty much guaranteed payday. No ring, trophy, or trinket would blindly lead me into a losing proposition.

Yeah, and they did a sign and trade with the Raptors too. This team literally now has no first round pick until 2016...

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Now that most of the details have come out and we see exactly the type of person Lebron is..you wanna change that statement.

I mean one of the major reasons he didn't go to Chicago was because Rose didn't call him? Funny how "The King" wanted Rose to pay tribute to the crown, but then punked out like a bitch by going to Miami to join another superstar's team.

He betrayed the Cavs because in order to resign him for 3 years they had to give him and his buddies control over the team. Then he ditches them and signs a 5 year deal in Miami? He was a driving force behind f'ing up the Cavs and then ran away with is pussy between his legs when things didn't work out.

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Lebron lost all class when the Cavs and him came here to Rochester for an exhibition game against the raptors. So many families brought their kids to see Lebron play and the entire game he teased the crowd by going to the check in table, faked signing in to play then laughed at the cowd mocking them and basically the city saying Im too good to play an exhibition. I bet if it was in a bigger city he would have played. To me Lebron is a joke who deserves nothing and has not been a class act ever since then. People wanted to see him play and he knew it and didnt play and snubbed us so scrwe Lebron I hope he gets a career ending injury.

Did you write into the D&C the past week about this? I remember reading something very similar to what you said about Lebron in the exhibition.

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Jordan's first retirement occurred because he was (and still is) a degenerate gambler. The NBA was not a fan of it, and there was significant pressure from David Stern for Jordan to retire, and step away from the game for a while so that Jordan's image and reputation would not be damaged. Jordan was not only an earner for himself, he made the league a LOT of money, and they wanted to protect their cash cow. It's no coincidence that the NBA was investigating Jordan's gambling, and stopped their investigation about 90 minutes after Jordan's press conference announcing his first retirement. He was convinced to retire, have the NBA stop the gambling investigation, and told to come back in a year or two once the heat was off.

When I mean about Jordan staying was that before the championships started, he had an opportunity to force a trade out of Chicago. The Bulls had lost to the Pistons 3 years running, and there were plenty of rumblings that he wanted out to actually win. He decided to stay, and look how that worked out.

Same thing for Kobe. Well after he was at LA (Yes, I know how he got there), when the Lakers were not winning, he was considering not resigning and moving somewhere else. He decided to stay, and it's worked out darn good.

Those Laker teams were worse than the recent Cavs teams, by far. The Cavs with LeBron were close, maybe a player or two away from getting over that hump. Again, I point to the Bulls who lost to the Pistons 3 years running, then ripped off 3 of their own championships. Instead of manning up and carrying his team over that hump, he ran to the 'easy' destination to play with another superstar. He pussed out.

LeBron may win some rings down there, but they won't mean nearly as much since he felt he had to go play with superstars to win instead of bringing his team up with him.

Squanto, I was about to post the same thing about Jordan. I can't believe that more people don't realize that he was basically suspended for 18 months, as if he actually gave a shit about playing minor league baseball. He left during one season, missed an entire season, and came back during the next season - which just happened to be exactly 18 months apart at akward times of two seasons. Coincidence? Ummm...not a chance in hell.