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Squanto
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:55 pm 
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Stunning lunacy.
Go Democrats Go!


And the Republicans want to extend the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy EVEN IF IT ADDS TO THE DEFICIT.

More stunning lunacy.


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mechaphil
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daz28 wrote:
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I agree with almost everything except the part about unemployment benefits.
Congress has extended unemployment benefits for 2 years (that's a record)...at some point it stops being insurance and starts being welfare.

Even a beleaguered and brow-beaten worker like you should be able to find a job within 2 years no?

This man speaks the truth. People have been sitting on their cans collecting 99 weeks of unemployment. That's insane. 6 months should be enough time to find a job, and people should also be responsible to save a nest egg for just such an occasion. People waste their money like crazy, and I'm not real keen on subsidizing their irresponsibility.

I suppose living paycheck to paycheck as a single parent made me irresponsible (for the record, even when I was living with my mom, she still charged me rent and babysitting costs when she watched Joshua).

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Crosscheck
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Squanto wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
Stunning lunacy.
Go Democrats Go!


And the Republicans want to extend the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy EVEN IF IT ADDS TO THE DEFICIT.

More stunning lunacy.

So? Republican's aren't in control.

The communist party wants to take over and nationalize all industry but I'm not complaining about them because they aren't in charge.

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good ole rust belt economy.

though, we are in recession, and the government isnt responsible for creating jobs.

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though, we are in recession, and the government isnt responsible for creating jobs.

No?
I was told my $787 Billion was going to create 3.4 million jobs.

It's right there in plain English on the White Houses web site
http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/economy

You're implying my government either lied to me or is incompetent. Nonsense!

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mechaphil
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Just so I'm sure, how many years straight of lying and/or nonsense has the gubbermint been guilty of? ;)

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wernt you the one blasting obama for buying GM so they could keep those jobs open?

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daz28 wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
I agree with almost everything except the part about unemployment benefits.
Congress has extended unemployment benefits for 2 years (that's a record)...at some point it stops being insurance and starts being welfare.

Even a beleaguered and brow-beaten worker like you should be able to find a job within 2 years no?

This man speaks the truth. People have been sitting on their cans collecting 99 weeks of unemployment. That's insane. 6 months should be enough time to find a job, and people should also be responsible to save a nest egg for just such an occasion. People waste their money like crazy, and I'm not real keen on subsidizing their irresponsibility.


Try it some time.

I worked for two years, and while I lived at home paying off loans (paid one off completely), I still payed some rent and utilities.

While working I had one project grind to a standstill because the state was thinking about shutting down that State Park. I had another grind to a standstill because the State Historic Preservation Office, Oneida Indian Nation, and the Federal Government can't agree on Archaeological testing per Section 106 regulations of NEPA. I had a third grind to a halt because it was a prerequisite for the previous project and once that dried up (shocker) the town didn't want to spend money on another project when the second (larger) one might never get done. I had a fourth grind to a halt because there was turnover in the town board of that municipality and the new regime was behind the curve when it came to information, and not completely supportive of the project anyways.

So I got to the point where I was basically wasting company time because I had no work coming in, yet somewhere around 10,000 hours of work for my position that could come at any moment (and would have to be rushed to meet funding deadlines that got all fucked up by the stalling) so it wasn't prudent to take on new work. Meanwhile the company experienced a slow year and I got laid off.

That was May 12th. Since then I've sent out in the ballpark of 20-30 resumes on top of the 10-15 query letters I've sent out for my novel. At that rate I'm sending 3-4 things out a week, or stuff out every other day. In those two months I've gotten ONE INFORMAL interview for a position that MAY or MAY NOT be available, most likely in a new office that the company hasn't even acquired property for, so it would be ONE TO TWO MONTHS before I could start working EVEN IF I get the job.


Meanwhile, since I believe in being prepared, I have enough money (living at home) in my account to pay off my loans for about a year (even without unemployment coming in), my resume and cover letters were up to date, and I had already been active in looking for a job since I'm trying to move. Not to mention the three weeks vacation I had saved up for the express purpose of being able to get paid after I stopped working to ease the burden and stave off going on unemployment.




I'm looking for the laziness and money wasting...

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Crosscheck
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
wernt you the one blasting obama for buying GM so they could keep those jobs open?

Absolutely.
And what happened when we did bail them out?

1. The preferred share holders got screwed
2. The UAW got control of the company
3. 10,000 people were laid off for restructuring

Wow...what a great job the government did there.

EDIT: actually, that bailout did save some jobs....in Brazil.
http://www.businesspundit.com/gm-layoff ... to-brazil/

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the UAW has always had GM by the balls.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
the UAW has always had GM by the balls.

true, but now they literally own them.

Actually I got my bailouts mixed up...UAW got 20% of GM and a 55% share of Chrysler.
Labor unions are making out like bandits.

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daz28
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Anyone who can't find a job, and wants to keep crying about it can contact me via PM. I can get you some hours washing dishes where I work. This notion that no one can get a service industry job after an exhaustive 6 month search is LUDICROUS. If you want to cry about not getting a job IN YOUR FIELD, then start a new thread. Squanto told us he has a friend with a Stanford law degree who is waiting tables. Get over your bad selves already.


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mechaphil
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My field was running machinery at a cookie factory, prior to my termination. Where have I applied since? Grocery stores, restaurants, fast food joints, call centers, warehouses, bookstores, security firms...I could keep going on. But I have yet to get a job.

Now, my former employer is disputing my claim so I'm not getting my unemployment unless I can convince the DOL I'm not full of shit (which I'm not). I'm not working cuz I can't find a job and I'm not getting the unemployment checks that were keeping me afloat. Life is grand.

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Jesus...your beer is on me Phil.

Disputing your claim? the rat bastards.

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mechaphil
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Well, hopefully, I'll have a paycheck from either a job or a temp agency by the time you get up here hah

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Squanto
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Back in the day, Adelphia was notorious for disputing claims for people who were fired. Almost every unemployment claim was challenged.


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mechaphil
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What gets me is, out of the last dozen people terminated that I've asked, I'm the only one who got the shaft. Petri brings it upon themselves, though - the judge that handles the claims has gotten so sick of seeing former Petri employees on his desk that he's apparently been approving claims without a second thought (that's inside information I have from a friend of mine who works with the execs daily heh heh).

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mechaphil wrote:
My field was running machinery at a cookie factory, prior to my termination. Where have I applied since? Grocery stores, restaurants, fast food joints, call centers, warehouses, bookstores, security firms...I could keep going on. But I have yet to get a job.

Now, my former employer is disputing my claim so I'm not getting my unemployment unless I can convince the DOL I'm not full of shit (which I'm not). I'm not working cuz I can't find a job and I'm not getting the unemployment checks that were keeping me afloat. Life is grand.

have you had interviews?


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Hang in there, but if you're a white man don't expect any favoritism from the government.

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Hang in there, but if you're a white man don't expect any favoritism from the government.

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