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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:03 pm 
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I haven't seen it yet, but I hope it's that good. I agree about how movies are more about special effects than plot these days. I really liked Dreamscape though, and always hoped their would be a remake without a rubber snake suit involved. Sounds like Inception should come close.


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Few things:

I did really like it, more than I thought I would even. It was hard to believe that it was close to 2 and a half hours when it ended because it was so engaging.

However, I didn't think it was better than Momento.

And Ellen Page, well, maybe you guys are thinking with your smaller heads (something I've been known to do). I thought her performance was flat and boring (making snoring sounds). Her part wasn't much but a plot device to explain the dream-making/stealing process, but still, I think a better, or more experienced actress could have done more with that part.

That's my only real complaint though. I give it a high B.


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fly as hale wrote:
I don't know...the plot is similar but you could also say that the Nightmare on Elm Street movies are similar too. It's not the first movie about going into people's dreams, but Nolan's spin on it was unique I thought. The idea of "inception" and the extraction, the layers, each person's totem, the kicks, limbo, etc... I thought it was really nicely done and it was one of those thought provoking plots that makes it so the audience has to think, I mean you couldn't just sit there and be taken along for the ride without thinking about it.

It just seems nowadays there are so many movies being made with the sole purpose of having crazy special effects, and it leaves us with a weak storyline... But this movie had the fantastic special effects coupled with an interesting, thought provoking plot along with a great score to help carry the movie. I loved it.

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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
Few things:

I did really like it, more than I thought I would even. It was hard to believe that it was close to 2 and a half hours when it ended because it was so engaging.

However, I didn't think it was better than Momento.

And Ellen Page, well, maybe you guys are thinking with your smaller heads (something I've been known to do). I thought her performance was flat and boring (making snoring sounds). Her part wasn't much but a plot device to explain the dream-making/stealing process, but still, I think a better, or more experienced actress could have done more with that part.

That's my only real complaint though. I give it a high B.


The other actresses that were considered were Evan Rachel Wood (who?), Emily Blunt (crickets), Rachel McAdams (who probably could have done alright), and Emma Roberts (Is that Nancy Drew?)

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I like Emily Blunt.

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Evan Rachel Wood was the "bad" girl in 13. She currently plays the Vampire Queen of Louisiana in True Blood, a role I don't think she's that good in.


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I came into the theater with high expectations, after reading and hearing the early reviews of this film being so excellent I had no choice but to believe that it would live up to its hype and it did not disappoint one bit. I myself did not feel the length of the film, it cruised right by and I was hypnotized by the story and I couldn't wait for the next step. Many people shit on this movie because of the length saying that 2 and a half hours is too long, its only too long if you don't feel like getting into the movie. People with short attention spans, people who cant even hold still for more than an hour are not going to like this movie. For one it is long so those people hoping to just go in and out of a theater in less than 2 hours are going to get bored, and the stupid people who want everything plastered in their face are going to hate it as well. This film makes you think, almost requires you to, but its not like a puzzle, there really isnt much that is too complex to figure out as long as you pay attention so long as you do that you will find this movie very enjoyable. So to sum up everything, just pay attention and you will like it, if you start dozing off you will find it to be an average film or worse.

I actually think that the next Academy Awards is Leonardo Dicaprio's best chance to win an Oscar. Inception in itself was a great film for Leo, in my opinion Oscar worthy but he still has Shutter Island for the next Academy Awards and while Shutter Island may not have been a masterpiece even though I thought it was a great film, nobody can deny that the acting on Leo's part was incredible.

Also I really liked Mark Ruffalo in Shutter Island and if he ends up playing The Hulk in The Avengers I would be all for it :)


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i want to see inception, but, you mentioned shutter island. that movie SUCKED. hard. IMO.

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hockeyplaya00 wrote:
I came into the theater with high expectations, after reading and hearing the early reviews of this film being so excellent I had no choice but to believe that it would live up to its hype and it did not disappoint one bit. I myself did not feel the length of the film, it cruised right by and I was hypnotized by the story and I couldn't wait for the next step. Many people shit on this movie because of the length saying that 2 and a half hours is too long, its only too long if you don't feel like getting into the movie. People with short attention spans, people who cant even hold still for more than an hour are not going to like this movie. For one it is long so those people hoping to just go in and out of a theater in less than 2 hours are going to get bored, and the stupid people who want everything plastered in their face are going to hate it as well. This film makes you think, almost requires you to, but its not like a puzzle, there really isnt much that is too complex to figure out as long as you pay attention so long as you do that you will find this movie very enjoyable. So to sum up everything, just pay attention and you will like it, if you start dozing off you will find it to be an average film or worse.

I actually think that the next Academy Awards is Leonardo Dicaprio's best chance to win an Oscar. Inception in itself was a great film for Leo, in my opinion Oscar worthy but he still has Shutter Island for the next Academy Awards and while Shutter Island may not have been a masterpiece even though I thought it was a great film, nobody can deny that the acting on Leo's part was incredible.

Also I really liked Mark Ruffalo in Shutter Island and if he ends up playing The Hulk in The Avengers I would be all for it :)



Haha, yeah, I tend to like a lot of movies like you describe, very deliberately paced, thinking movies.


Honestly, nothing bores me more than car chases, explosions, and guns. Unless its one of the older Bond movies.

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i want to see inception, but, you mentioned shutter island. that movie SUCKED. hard. IMO.


When 'defending' Shutter Island I tend to care less about the actually story and how it was directed because it was indeed one of Scorsese's worst films but what I like about the film is the acting. The main cast was great and as said before by tons of reviewers, its a movie full of creepy looking actors and aside from Max Von Sydow who I didnt really like very much, they pretty much all did great. Jackie Earl Haley did a perfect portrayal of Noyce and was easily my favorite creepy actor. Looking at a movie just by how the actors did I guess doesnt make much sense but it is something I appreciate and it does do a considerate amount of changing my thoughts when thinking about a movie regardless of how bad the movie as a whole was. But with that said I admit that the film was a bit slow paced and could have been trimmed down, I think that some of the scenes could have been spiced up, not adding an explosion spice but more...emotion. Some parts did strike me as boring and those are the times where I sit back and find room to appreciate the acting.


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I loved Shutter Island.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Stuuuuuuu wrote:
Few things:

I did really like it, more than I thought I would even. It was hard to believe that it was close to 2 and a half hours when it ended because it was so engaging.

However, I didn't think it was better than Momento.

And Ellen Page, well, maybe you guys are thinking with your smaller heads (something I've been known to do). I thought her performance was flat and boring (making snoring sounds). Her part wasn't much but a plot device to explain the dream-making/stealing process, but still, I think a better, or more experienced actress could have done more with that part.

That's my only real complaint though. I give it a high B.


The other actresses that were considered were Evan Rachel Wood (who?), Emily Blunt (crickets), Rachel McAdams (who probably could have done alright), and Emma Roberts (Is that Nancy Drew?)

Evan Rachel Wood was in Across the Universe and is/was/has fucked Marylin Manson. thats pretty much all shes knows for...

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ya know, marilyn manson is weird, but he is a smart smart man. genius even. he gets mad respect from me because of the way he handles himself when people push blame for society onto him. he actually listens to them.

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ya know, marilyn manson is weird, but he is a smart smart man. genius even. he gets mad respect from me because of the way he handles himself when people push blame for society onto him. he actually listens to them.

i never said anything to the contrary. outside of looking like a Tim Burton character he seems to be pretty cool. but that doesnt change that fact that Evan Rachel Woods primary claim to fame is dating him though.

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That was a really cool movie.

I think that Nolan began intending to represent the idea of paradox in a film and used the idea of dreaming to illustrate it because paradoxes cannot exist in physical reality. That's just where I've gotten from thinking over it during the half-hour walk home, though. Haha.


Loved it. I didn't even notice how long it was. When it ended, most of the theater said, "WHAT?!"

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Added the spoiler tags because I realized that if I had read what I said before seeing the movie, it would very likely have been ruined for me because I like to play "Let's guess the entire plot of a movie as I'm watching it!" and I'm sure others do, too.

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OK, after "research" that's not how Nolan came up with the film... lol... However, I do think that the entire movie is still intended to be what I said. Every theory I've thought of that offers a definite conclusion just keeps leading me back to that, and the repeated staircase imagery and most of the repeated quotes definitely support it. I think they were big clues intentionally placed in the movie for the audience. I really need to see it again to be sure, but...

Aaanyway. Fun movie. I hadn't ever seen one that's actually made me think like this, and I love this kind of stuff.

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I saw it again tonight lol

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I'm seeing it with my friend Friday night. :D Then I will get to have some irl conversation about it. My brother isn't very, um, stimulating, in the sense that he doesn't particularly enjoy abstract puzzles or something.

I'm going to be so amused if my mind doesn't change after a second viewing because that theory entered my mind within two minutes of walking out of the theater. After looking at Wikipedia the whole origin of the movie in Nolan's brain thing might be wrong, but I still think I'm right overall. :P

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So, I just saw the movie last night. Pretty amazing ride, my mind is still sorting out the timeline today.

One thing I didnt like, they offered no explanation for how people are sharing dreams, they just go to sleep and then bam, they're all in a dream together. Seeing as how that's not some native trait humans have, it seems they should have introduced some machine, or technique that would allow this to happen.

Also, the end kind of bugged me. They teased (with the top that MIGHT have been about to fall...) that perhaps he was still dreaming, but when I think of the timeline in my head, they didnt really supply a story for THAT part to be a dream. Like...they'd shown us all the 'levels' of dreaming they went through, but each time returned to 'reality'...if the last scene was a dream it means they never in over two hours showed us 'reality'...and the ENTIRE movie was at no point less than two dream levels down.


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They do have a machine. They used it all film. It coordinates their loss of consciousness and is just kind of assumed to provide that link to each other. Remember, only people attached to the machine can link up in the dreams, so it's reasonable to say that machine is how they do it.

Also, regarding the end, in every scene the top is spinning in during the dream world, it doesn't even so much as waver. So for it to be wobbling at the end signifies he was indeed back in reality. Besides, Michael Caine's presence said it, too - if he were back in one of his memory-constructed dreams again, Michael Caine wouldn't be there but his wife (and Leo's mother-in-law) would be.

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